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    ULTIMATE solution to Warrior

    ULTIMATE solution to Warrior
    First of all English is not my first language, as it can be seen in my other posts, so I apologize if it sounds wonky.
    Every veteran warrior i've spoken to says they miss the old berserk, and just put up with current IR, cause they just love warrior, so:
    1) Bring back Stormblood berserk and make Inner release like DRKs current delirium. Window with guaranteed DH-Crit just doesn’t feel good, its like taking away half the fun of the ability, not knowing will it crit or not. Honestly to me it feels much more satisfying to crit FC than to land it in IR window, even though they have less numbers. After fighting with current IR and its spammy nature I’ve come to conclusion that its necessary for post 4.0 WAR to keep it in order to feel fluid; also pre 4.2 was spammy anyway (granted using your gauge on that spam felt different, it was still the same). This solution not only makes raid buffs with DH useful to us, but also makes pre 70lvl experience much more enjoyable, and infuriate trait is still useful to us.
    30% attack power berserk for 20s duration on 60 sec CD, IR that nullifies beast gauge cost for 10s on 90 sec CD. Berserk+IR+2 infuriate FCs, 7 FCs(the DREAM!) every 3 mins. And nostalgia berserk 3-4 FC every minute. Berserk will be up for every trick attack if it still will be in the game...
    2) Keep DH-crit on Chaos attacks, but make them weaponskills on 30s cooldown like Sonic Break. (now hear me out, it sounds crazy, but right now because its tied to infuriate and its timer being shaved by beast gauge attacks, we use it the same number as we use upheavel throughout the fight, so it won’t be a huge change in frequency of it being used). It still shaves 5s off of infuriate. This change will get rid of all the clunkyness of using it inside IR window. P.S I think having skills that guarantee dh-crit can be warriors niche, but not whole damn 10s windows. Infuriate is still used on FC.
    Every second IC will be in berserk window.
    3) Now really smol QoL changes: 1. Nascent flash can be applied on self but without 10% mitigation. 2. Mythrill tempest applies storm’s eye. 3. Storm’s eye duration is extended to 40s. 4. Keep onslaught as it is it should be used for gap closing, don’t look at other tanks, what they have in 200 potency ogcd, we compensate otherwise, for maximum deeps they need to use both charges locking them from using it for actual gap closing, we are actually blessed.
    I didn’t do hardcore math on this, but the damage shouldn’t be MUCH higher than it is now, if it is off the charts tho, there can be either made potency adjustments(worst scenario), or we can lose 1 infuriate charge, we only had it for month, it won’t be missed(better scenario); or a little bit of both.(a small price to pay for getting old berserk back).
    Feel free to criticize and call out on any point I made, we can work on this together. \o/
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    It's not bad, but I'm not sold on 30-sec IC lockout. At least right now there is the minor strategy of trying to line up 2 in every other trick, or self healing burst, or add burning burst.. There are some benefits that you wouldn't have with a 30-sec CD. I mean I've accidentally popped Infuriate during IR a few times but really shouldn't design things to be stupid proof IMO.
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    Honestly the only thing I don't like about IR is that it makes me remeld my gear when I switch to a different tanking job lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    It's not bad, but I'm not sold on 30-sec IC lockout. At least right now there is the minor strategy of trying to line up 2 in every other trick, or self healing burst, or add burning burst.. There are some benefits that you wouldn't have with a 30-sec CD. I mean I've accidentally popped Infuriate during IR a few times but really shouldn't design things to be stupid proof IMO.
    Honestly i've never had that problem with using infuriate during IR, but i've heard there are cases like that so i thought about making smthn with it. I too enjoy tactically using both stacks in buff windows, but to me it won't me such a big loss personally. Idk why but just thinking about IC as 30s weaponskill without it tied to gauge just makes it feel really good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khimer View Post
    Idk why but just thinking about IC as 30s weaponskill without it tied to gauge just makes it feel really good.
    I mean essentially it is. Just takes 2 buttons (Infuriate + IC). You have to make sure that popping Infuriate doesn't overcap you, but in principle it doesn't really "cost" gauge because the button that activates your Inner Chaos is giving you the gauge that it costs.
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    Instead of separating ir into 2, take storms eye dmg buff from the combo and give us a brand new oGCD aoe damaging spell which will grant us 30 sec buf and have 30 sec cooldown and 20 gauge cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanpierre View Post
    I mean essentially it is. Just takes 2 buttons (Infuriate + IC). You have to make sure that popping Infuriate doesn't overcap you, but in principle it doesn't really "cost" gauge because the button that activates your Inner Chaos is giving you the gauge that it costs.
    yah, true. But in context of my post infuriate and gauge is only used on FC and Decimate so ya know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Instead of separating ir into 2, take storms eye dmg buff from the combo and give us a brand new oGCD aoe damaging spell which will grant us 30 sec buf and have 30 sec cooldown and 20 gauge cost.
    While i'm all up for wars to have another ogcd, making it 30 secs and 30 sec duration would make it 100% uptime which would make keeping 10% buff braindead easy, also that would make eye combo useless which is a HUGE NO NO. For some reason there is a trend lately to get rid of the eye combo, i know this days it feels insignificant 10%dmg buff and it also feels like a loss when you don't get that 10 more gauge, but eye combo is iconic to warrior, if we look at fixing it with current warrior playstyle i think making it back to 20% damage buff and making it 40s would make it feel more satisfying, but that would boost our dps BY A LOT, so idk. And its not separating ir into 2 its bringing back how it was before, returning warrior to its purest best form for newcomers to enjoy, they'll never want old IR back once they get the taste of it.
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    I have to try really hard to not make a "final solution" joke. Anyways, just make raw intuition last a good deal longer and we're Gucci.
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