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    Flash and Wardrum pale in comparison to one Steel Cyclone for hate. In fact it does more than both combined (on aoeing mobs of equivalent level).

    Paladins need buffs, but more importantly, they need content that actually requires taking one. Right now there isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruk View Post
    Flash and Wardrum pale in comparison to one Steel Cyclone for hate. In fact it does more than both combined (on aoeing mobs of equivalent level).

    Paladins need buffs, but more importantly, they need content that actually requires taking one. Right now there isn't.
    I'm sorry, but are we talking about the same game? Much of the content in this game revolves around multiple targets. You show me a Warrior who can tank multiple targets better than Gladiator and I'll drop my case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    I'm sorry, but are we talking about the same game? Much of the content in this game revolves around multiple targets. You show me a Warrior who can tank multiple targets better than Gladiator and I'll drop my case.
    Walk into group of mobs, press vengeance, rampart, provoke biggest thing, press steel cyclone at 2000 tp or just chain it at 1000 tp. gg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    I'm sorry, but are we talking about the same game? Much of the content in this game revolves around multiple targets. You show me a Warrior who can tank multiple targets better than Gladiator and I'll drop my case.
    I'm not sure we're talking about the same game either. A paladin can't even come to close to the aoe hate abilities a warrior has. One flare goes off and the paladin is sitting there as a sub-whm curing the blm's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruk View Post
    I'm not sure we're talking about the same game either. A paladin can't even come to close to the aoe hate abilities a warrior has. One flare goes off and the paladin is sitting there as a sub-whm curing the blm's.
    Sounds like more of a case of a fail BLM and a fail GLA/PLD. As well, Paladin has Cover for these situations. Warrior has nothing outside of Steel Cyclone (2000TP@30sec) versus Gladiator's instant Flash and conditional War Drum, among many other enmity tricks.

    Also, find me an EXP party pre-45 that has a Warrior for a tank and I'll show you a dead party.

    I think this is much less about Warrior's ability to tank well under certain conditions as it is more about people loving to deal damage and tank at the same time. Gladiator and Paladin are still viable tanks, and you won't convince me otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    you won't convince me otherwise.
    So why are you asking people to debate with you? That is like borderline trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    So why are you asking people to debate with you? That is like borderline trolling.
    What the..? People debate with me of their own free will. They have an opinion, and I have mine. This is how discussion works?

    Madruk and others are obviously not entertaining the notion, to any degree, that Gladiator and Paladin have their uses. At least I have acknowledged what Warrior is capable of doing in its own capacity. The fact that my points have been absolutely dismissed/unaddressed in favor of "WAR > PLD /thread" makes them much closer to a troll than I've yet to come.

    Shall I link for you, as well, the Urban Dictionary's definition of a troll?
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