White Mage Overflow

[EaMett]

In EX Trails average dps difference between WHM and SCH is far closer to double than tripple 469, and in the Eden raid it's fairly close to 469.
This already was predicted, the more healing and movement needed the better SCH is going to do.

It’s a little hard to compare things like this because you need healers to be on par skill wise (preferably without padding) and as far as raid dps goes you need a consistent level throughout your party.

It will also vary based on skill tier since rDPS is less likely to drop as significantly as pDPS in lower tiers.

But if you take an optimized and consistent setting to check actual job potential then whm pDPS contribution is about double that of sch CS. Both in eden and ex trials at the moment.

Of course these are all really easy fights so that gap might close a bit in savage but afflatus really gives whm more mobility so it shouldn’t be that big of a gap closer.

[aiqa]

It’s a little hard to compare things like this because you need healers to be on par skill wise (preferably without padding) and as far as raid dps goes you need a consistent level throughout your party.

It will also vary based on skill tier since rDPS is less likely to drop as significantly as pDPS in lower tiers.

But if you take an optimized and consistent setting to check actual job potential then whm pDPS contribution is about double that of sch CS. Both in eden and ex trials at the moment.

Of course these are all really easy fights so that gap might close a bit in savage but afflatus really gives whm more mobility so it shouldn’t be that big of a gap closer.

It's difficult to compare individuals, but statistics will just average out eventually.
When looking at any reasonable percentile at fflog I am not seeing such big differences.
And assuming both healers contribute the same to HPS I am not also seeing where doubling the DPS would come from from a rotation point of view.

[EaMett]

It's difficult to compare individuals, but statistics will just average out eventually.
When looking at any reasonable percentile at fflog I am not seeing such big differences.
And assuming both healers contribute the same to HPS I am not also seeing where doubling the DPS would come from from a rotation point of view.

Healers will never contribute the same HPS because of the way toolkits are set up. Afflatus when used properly is a dps gain so in a WHM/SCH comp WHM heals take precedence over scholars. Order priority should be afflatus heal + ogcd weave > then sch ogcd > then WHM ogcd without afflatus > then sch gcd > then WHM gcd. You should almost never hit the last part. Currently, given how low the healing requirement is, this means WHM do a huge chunk of the healing.

And again, as far as job potential and balance goes you should only concern yourself with top tier optimized play. In which WHM is ahead by a landslide. FFlogs actually introduced raid dps today and it's become clear that in upper tiers WHM is ahead overall by about 800 dps (that's 800 ahead of pdps and rdps combined for sch). So that would be double what CS brings (and mind you this is in a context where the parties leverages CS to it's max).

That gap is reduced at lower tiers because the lower the skill the better CS is compared to your personal DPS. But again it's a little weird to look at those for job comparison since players aren't optimized. If you don't understand how afflatus skills benefit you and should be used, that's more telling of the class design than it is the class balance, for example.