Quote Originally Posted by Lagomorph View Post
Also hard disagree that healer balance doesn't matter outside of savage. You can change some things about the various healers that would have an enormous impact on their dungeon experience without it affecting savage at all. What if gravity had a stun? That would be a game-changer for ast, and literally would not change how they function in savage. Saying balance only mattered in savage is kind of just an excuse to ignore balance in all other areas. There is absolutely no reason that white mages should be this far ahead in dungeons as it is right now.
So if we follow this to its logical conclusion, WHM has been good in dungeons and casual contents all the way back to and including Heavensward. Never has anyone ever said "wow white mage sucks at dungeons". So... what. WHM has been completely fine these last 4 years then? (And every other job that's had trouble?) We're kind of at a dead end if you believe this.

Of course, WHM also hasn't been as good in dungeons as people think. For Stormblood, at least, despite people saying "holy's stun is so good!", it was not faster at clearing dungeons than the other 2 healers - they were all about the same.

Quote Originally Posted by Lagomorph View Post
If it were just about shields, then it wouldn't matter in the slightest because, like I said, shields are largely unnecessary. If the upcoming raids have the same difficulty as stormblood, then very few mechanics will actually require shielding.
It is this very thing that makes the critlo-on-a-button so good. Unless I've just been running with a lot of bad ASTs (and mine isn't 80 yet), I've yet to see one that can shield a tank for half their HP or more (or come close), and nevermind spread that (in a slightly weakened state but still very strong) to the rest of the party. It is a cooldown, but like you say, it's not needed often.


Quote Originally Posted by Lagomorph View Post
Regarding chain, I posted this a while back...



You can stack buffs, but that will not nearly increase the value of chain to a number that would make scholars compete with white mages right now.
Saving this for last because I think this is the most important issue. People will still want the raid buffs for FFLogs, to push their standing, etc etc.

More to the point, WHM hasn't really changed that much from Stormblood. It got a small amount of mobility and a fair bit of personal DPS (you're not actually outdamaging tanks without a pocket dancer, etc). The moment SE buffs the other two healers, people are going to suddenly remember all the other things that made white mage fall behind.

Though I do kind of expect SE to buff scholar with all these complaints, and AST genuinely needs some love even though it competes directly with white mage... so I hope SE lets WHM keep the niche of having the best personal damage, at least. But I'm also hoping very much SCH doesn't get buffs, it really doesn't need to go into orbit yet again.