White Mage Overflow

[NanaWiloh]

Are you back in time and still in SB maybe? :>

Utility is there sure, but a WHM beats an AST for contribution in every form. They have higher DPS contribution and HPS. AST cards atm don't give enough raid DPS to contribute as much as a WHM does with their personal DPS. There is a bad gap between AST and both other healers really.

I don't know why SE thought this was okay...to have AST be so much weaker than both other healers in HPS AND DPS. That isn't balance. They gutted AST CU....then just gave it to SCH instead lol I don't even get their thought process at this point and I have definitely lost any and all faith I had left about them balancing healers.

IMO The balance was so much closer in SB, WHM just needed some help, instead they destroyed the other two healers to make WHM good....instead of just making WHM good :/

No kidding. All of my OGCD's have low potency and long cool downs. The GCD heal usage for AST is higher then sch or whm. The card system is not fun and competely convoluted at the moment. MP mangement is a headache because of all the GCD healing we have to do making dpsing a pain mostly in 4 man dungeons though. FFlogs is showing AST as the top healer in 80 4 mans...wonder why that is!! OH I know cause we got to spam things like Benefic II and blow multiple OGCD's on large trash pulls. Sorry for the sarcasm

[Fiorinol]

AST just looks like an unfun brainache to play now.

But in Stormblood us WHM players got told we were "trash tier" by raiders and were hassled constantly to "switch to AST".

Seems like Square Enix can't get healers right. I also don't understand the amount of people comparing SCH and WHM, it's a stupid comparison. WHM would never replace SCH because Nocturnal AST is really bad.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

I'm glad people are starting to see how horrible SE is at healer balancing. It's been like this since freaking HW if you were a WHM. Then we went into SB just as bad, but since it was just WHM it was easy to just sweep the problem under the rug. The fact that SE let a job, with a job guage so useless you could click it off and not notice a thing, sit at the bottom for YEARS is absolutely ridiculous.

I don't see them fixing these healer issues anytime soon either, they have no idea what they're doing or going with them. I'm hoping for the best, but all I see is another situation where SCH and AST is buffed to kings and everyone stays quiet again for 2 years.

[NanaWiloh]

I'm glad people are starting to see how horrible SE is at healer balancing. It's been like this since freaking HW if you were a WHM. Then we went into SB just as bad, but since it was just WHM it was easy to just sweep the problem under the rug. The fact that SE let a job, with a job guage so useless you could click it off and not notice a thing, sit at the bottom for YEARS is absolutely ridiculous.

I don't see them fixing these healer issues anytime soon either, they have no idea what they're doing or going with them. I'm hoping for the best, but all I see is another situation where SCH and AST is buffed to kings and everyone stays quiet again for 2 years.

Had that same feeling that history is going to repeat itself again. Whm can be top dps out of healers, but for healing all of us should be more or less equal.

[Fiorinol]

I'm glad people are starting to see how horrible SE is at healer balancing. It's been like this since freaking HW if you were a WHM. Then we went into SB just as bad, but since it was just WHM it was easy to just sweep the problem under the rug. The fact that SE let a job, with a job guage so useless you could click it off and not notice a thing, sit at the bottom for YEARS is absolutely ridiculous.

I don't see them fixing these healer issues anytime soon either, they have no idea what they're doing or going with them. I'm hoping for the best, but all I see is another situation where SCH and AST is buffed to kings and everyone stays quiet again for 2 years.

You remind me that the first I had to do into this expansion, was drag back the lilies bar onto the screen.

Yea, I totally expect 5.05 to overbuff AST and WHM will be bottom of the heap again.

[Sebazy]

Again, I don’t have a problem with the foundations of what you are saying. Rather, my issue is the extent with which you are spinning it.

I’m not really sure what more holy than cure ii has to do with anything here though? Cure II’s mid pull outside if the first Akademia pull usually means something went pretty wrong

[Adeacia]

WHM has always been considered boring and easy to play from the start. People are suddenly going to WHM now because the dps on the other healers are lower.

It was never about being boring, you just want to see high numbers.

[Hatstand]

WHM has always been considered boring and easy to play from the start. People are suddenly going to WHM now because the dps on the other healers are lower.

It was never about being boring, you just want to see high numbers.

WHM still feels the way it used to. Maybe a little better. But now SCH is boring and easy to play AND clunky, so why not go for WHM when it's smooth? To be clear, I never actually disliked WHM. It was just my least favourite of the three healers by a decent margin

[galbsadi]

WHM still feels the way it used to. Maybe a little better. But now SCH is boring and easy to play AND clunky, so why not go for WHM when it's smooth? To be clear, I never actually disliked WHM. It was just my least favourite of the three healers by a decent margin

I slightly disagree. WHM, at least to me, actually feels quite a bit better than it did in Stormblood. The Afflatus spells are a good addition, and they add what I think was kinda missing before. It's still a relatively simple class, but it's well-packaged now. A slight improvement might be to make Afflatus spells oGCD, but that'd probably make the meta purely WHM/WHM without question if it happened.

[Lagomorph]

WHM has always been considered boring and easy to play from the start. People are suddenly going to WHM now because the dps on the other healers are lower.

It was never about being boring, you just want to see high numbers.

I'm sure there are some people playing white mage because of it's high dps. But generalizing this to everyone is pretty ignorant. And if it was just about wanting to see higher numbers, then where were all the stormblood white mage players? Even in its under-tuned state last expansion, it still had the highest dps potential out of the three healers.