White Mage Overflow

[DawnSolaria]

Maybe instead of jumping to a rude response you could have at least read and thought about what I said.

I thought about it and came to a conclusion that you weren't being entirely truthful. By the time stun DR kicks in mobs are usually around 30-35% health if your dps is competent. That is way more mitigation than sch's ogcd especially with how much damage tanks are taking right now from multiple mob. Holy had always been the staple mobs mitigation tool and it is laughable in my opinion to suggest holy being worse or harder to use than the other 2 aoes.

[fantasticm]

By the time stun DR kicks in mobs are usually around 30-35% health if your dps is competent.

What I wouldn't give to have this sort of luck with pugs. Switch with me?

[Sebazy]

I thought about it and came to a conclusion that you weren't being entirely truthful. By the time stun DR kicks in mobs are usually around 30-35% health if your dps is competent. That is way more mitigation than sch's ogcd especially with how much damage tanks are taking right now from multiple mob. Holy had always been the staple mobs mitigation tool and it is laughable in my opinion to suggest holy being worse or harder to use than the other 2 aoes.

30-35% is either optimistic, two entirely world class DPS or obsolete content. Somewhere between 50% and 75% is a more realistic figure imho.

It takes a little under a minute to kill a decent sized trash pack in one of the current Dungeons with good damage.

With a combined group DPS of 100k and myself doing 30k of that, it takes ~40 seconds from my first holy (Not including hitting most of the pack with Dia as the pull is being formed) to the last. This is also excluding a couple of Glares once the pack is down to 1 or 2 mobs. In this case, the Stun would have been done with at around 60% HP remaining.

Holy is a powerful tool, but the instant cast of Art of War is also very useful too. As useful as the stun? I'd agree that it's not. But it's far far handier then Gravity if you're really trying to push out as much DPS as you can.

[Arcana]

I started as a SCH from 60 to 72 a few days ago. I was happy using it. a bit bored using AoW and broil + bio but in healing terms was not bad. I gave a try on WHM yesterday and omg... the healing is way more easy and the dps i can do (on dungeons atm) is obscene. Ill keep on whm on ShB until SE balance the other healers.

[Thorbot]

I started as a SCH from 60 to 72 a few days ago. I was happy using it. a bit bored using AoW and broil + bio but in healing terms was not bad. I gave a try on WHM yesterday and omg... the healing is way more easy and the dps i can do (on dungeons atm) is obscene. Ill keep on whm on ShB until SE balance the other healers.

It's funny because SCH is just as strong as WHM in dungeons. At level 80 at least, my tank basically never takes damage and I never need to cast anything that isn't broil.

[galbsadi]

It's funny because SCH is just as strong as WHM in dungeons. At level 80 at least, my tank basically never takes damage and I never need to cast anything that isn't broil.

On...damage?

Nope: https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...gregate=amount

On...speed?

Nope: https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/27#class=Healers

On...healing?

Perhaps: https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...gregate=amount

Of course, note that right there AST is technically stronger, too, and nobody's dumb enough to call them in a good place., particularly given that healing numbers naturally decrease as gear and fight knowledge go up.

[DarkEiraStar]

I've been a WHM main since ARR. I know people want a 4th healing job, but can you imagine how much worse everything would be right now if we did?

[Kaiten_kenbu]

In my opinion, WHM was given 1 job and 1 job only - Heals. No utility, just heals.

Hence their crazy ability to burst heal.

They're also the easiest healer to play.

The other two healers bring utility, with AST having the most versatility and utility imo.

[TankHunter678]

In my opinion, WHM was given 1 job and 1 job only - Heals. No utility, just heals.

Hence their crazy ability to burst heal.

They're also the easiest healer to play.

The other two healers bring utility, with AST having the most versatility and utility imo.

AST used to have the most versatility and utility. Now it does not have the versatility (Noct is all but useless, the cards are all the same) and as a result it lacks in utility. Its a damage padder that can be replaced by a WHM for clear speed.

[Miste]

with AST having the most versatility and utility imo.

Are you back in time and still in SB maybe? :>

Utility is there sure, but a WHM beats an AST for contribution in every form. They have higher DPS contribution and HPS. AST cards atm don't give enough raid DPS to contribute as much as a WHM does with their personal DPS. There is a bad gap between AST and both other healers really.

I don't know why SE thought this was okay...to have AST be so much weaker than both other healers in HPS AND DPS. That isn't balance. They gutted AST CU....then just gave it to SCH instead lol I don't even get their thought process at this point and I have definitely lost any and all faith I had left about them balancing healers.

IMO The balance was so much closer in SB, WHM just needed some help, instead they destroyed the other two healers to make WHM good....instead of just making WHM good :/