White Mage Overflow

[Risvertasashi]

There's not that many WHMs compared to scholars. If the AST and WHM populations were balanced, SCH would be the top clearing healer (as usual).

So, give it a little bit. 5.05 will buff AST, which should take a chunk out of the WHM population and put SCH back on top.

[Dualblade]

Based on what I've personally seen it does seem like AST numbers have dropped, but SCH and WHM show up about equally with each other. Again based on exp, no hard numbers here.

[Risvertasashi]

Based on what I've personally seen it does seem like AST numbers have dropped, but SCH and WHM show up about equally with each other. Again based on exp, no hard numbers here.

There are hard numbers on that one log website ~.^

And you're correct, ish. WHM is in the lead, but again, SCH is not that far behind. AST is far behind but once AST/WHM balances out, SCH will be the leading healer on clears.

[fantasticm]

They sneeze and everyone is full health. They can glare spam all day with how strong their heals are and easy to play the class is.

Sounds just like Scholar.

Poor AST, though.

[Sanghelios]

If you take a look at the logs site for both Titania and Innocence combined, you have 198.574 clears for WHM, followed by 150.288 for SCH and AST is way behind with only 66.252.

[MOZZYSTAR]

Astro became very complicated and busy to play. Between drawing and redrawing cards, trying to heal with weak potencies and high MP costs, it is a headache. Divination has a cool down that is way too long for what you get and the amount of work you put in for it.

No, Astro became very simple and dull to play with no strategic skills and low potencies all together.


But yeah, WHM influx was bound to happen.

[Lagomorph]

White mage is just better at everything right now . A large reason why scholars are relevant right now is because groups would rather not run double white mage (though it happens pretty often anyways). There isn't any good reason to bring an astrologian right now. In 4 man content though? White mage is even farther ahead of the other 2 healers with their spammable stun, afflatus misery, assize, etc. I'm playing white mage a lot right now and I don't even like the class that much. But why would I play anything else if I want to heal when everything else is pretty much strictly worse?

[Risvertasashi]

A large reason why scholars are relevant right now is because groups would rather not run double white mage

Oh, please. Scholar is not weak in the slightest. Groups aren't going to give up the amazing amount of mitigation, the raid buffs, and - well the instant heals are more a convenience for the scholar than the group, but you know.

[Lagomorph]

Oh, please. Scholar is not weak in the slightest. Groups aren't going to give up the amazing amount of mitigation, the raid buffs, and - well the instant heals are more a convenience for the scholar than the group, but you know.

Amazing mitigation? Sure, but there's nothing in this game that needs to be mitigated at all. Maybe in savage? And white mages have temperance anyways.

Raid buffs? Chain stratagem is a lot less significant than a lot of people think, and doesn't even come close to covering the difference between white mage and scholar personal dps.

Scholar isn't weak. White mage is just way too strong right now. Ast actually is weak though, I feel bad for them.

[Risvertasashi]

Amazing mitigation? Sure, but there's nothing in this game that needs to be mitigated at all. Maybe in savage? And white mages have temperance anyways.

Raid buffs? Chain stratagem is a lot less significant than a lot of people think, and doesn't even come close to covering the difference between white mage and scholar personal dps.

Trick attack is also only 10 seconds long. Stacking raid buffs during burst windows matter.

And, yes, healer composition doesn't matter outside of savage. That's always been the case. You balance around savage because that's where jobs are tested and pushed to their limits. Outside of savage, WHM never needed buffs. Nor did AST in stormblood. In fact, outside of savage, we didn't need any job balancing changes at all, with DPS and tanks too.

And, yes, scholar shields are pretty ridiculous. It makes me feel bad for Noct ASTs, how weak and pitiful their shields are in comparison.

But, we both agree AST needs some love. But that's also the only thing that needs to happen. As mentioned on page 1, WHM clear rates will drop when AST is stronger.

Not that I necessarily expect SE not to do it - but buffing Scholar as this point would be an encore of Stormblood balancing.