People leaving trials/dungeons after leveling should lose that XP.

[Maverick_Haas]

So imagine you queued up for a dungeon. Typically can take a while, because healers are in such need. You run half the dungeon, the healer hits lvl 80 and bails out. They got what they wanted, but now the rest of the group has to stop and wait for another healer to join, which could take just as long if not longer to get another healer.

If a player exits a dungeon or trial without a vote abandon or clear or lockout, they should lose all XP and items gained.

[van_arn]

Dunno, they killed those mobs and bosses with you so they earned that loot/xp. They were penalized with the a withdraw penalty.

[Reimmi]

I don't think so, life happens, shouldn't punish the people who have valid reasons for leaving for the few bad eggs

[Bacent]

I was a bard. Got into a level 77 dungeon. I hit level 80 from killing two bosses and all the mobs. Suddenly the special fate by Stilltide pops up, so I abandoned that because I wanted my Frog Mount since the fate can only appear once every few days (Sure 3 instances, but I want my rewards BEFORE the instances are gone). If I would have deleveled because of other limitations SE has purposely put in the game, I would have been furious.

We already dealt with losing EXP and crap like that in Eureka, and it's a terrible thing they brought from FFXI.

I worked with people to get my EXP, but something came up that was much more important, and no one is gonna take that away from me without a fight.



If anyone tried to take this from me, they'll be the one croaking.

[Sei_Konsetsu]

Dunno, they killed those mobs and bosses with you so they earned that loot/xp. They were penalized with the a withdraw penalty.

The penalty that they dont care about because they got what they wanted...

While i have never ran into this, gonna have to agree with the op here. That sucks and something should be addressed, maybe make it so all exp gained dosent get given to you until you exit dungeon complete or vote kicked? I dunno, sure people would just complain about that.

[Doljax]

The penalty that they dont care about because they got what they wanted...

While i have never ran into this, gonna have to agree with the op here. That sucks and something should be addressed, maybe make it so all exp gained dosent get given to you until you exit dungeon complete or vote kicked? I dunno, sure people would just complain about that.

Well, yeah people will complain about it. In trying to fix an uncommon problem, the "fix" would instead open people up to having to endure potential harassment lest they lose any items or XP. As to giving them the XP if they get votekicked, that would just open up exploitation of the kick system to get kicked without breaking the rules/breaking them too hard it makes reporting them too much of a hassle. It sucks having someone leave, I get it, but a better solution to this issue is to instead incentivise people to use the "Join in-progress Party" option.

[Fynlar]

I can't think of any way they could potentially address this issue without stepping on more toes.

Taking exp away, doesn't take a genius to see how that will be received.

"Pooling" the exp only to give it to you at dungeon completion will screw over any runs that don't make it to the end of the dungeon for whatever reason.

[Maverick_Haas]

I think it's rather simple to set up rules.

Reasons you don't receive xp or items
- Leaving without a vote abandon

Reasons you do receive xp and items
- Vote abandon
- Vote kick
- Lockout
- Duty Complete

Sure, some people would then abuse the vote kick by afking, but it's less appealing to go for the vote kick than it is just to leave.
I think if you've got the inclination to waste everyone's time, you should have wasted your own.
It's not so much of a big deal if people are easily replaceable, but currently healers are in high demand and can take literally half an hour to replace.
It's not just a minor inconvenience, it's literally almost a whole hour of just waiting on queue times.

[Maneesha]

if people have to leave, they'll leave, no matter the penalty. imo its a bit silly to join a dungeon and leave after lvl up (in the sense they don't hit max lvl), one could gain more exp for the next lvl if he was to continue, but if they choose to leave there is a penalty in place for this action. even your proposal is open for exploitation, those people who leave because they lvl up, would stay and afk until you kick them, this wastes even more time because you guys wait and wonder if they'll ever come back. now at least you can choose to fill up this spot or vote abandon and try again if you fear a long waiting time to get the spot filled up.

[Derceto]

Asking for accountability? In this game? LOL Best of luck with that.