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  1. #81
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    Yshnal's Avatar
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 100
    We have that system of the Achievement Certificates (which, in turn, "replaced" the old Veteran program) that is barely updated, if at all. It could be a nice idea to ask for new things there, instead of in the MogStation, for a change.

    Also, a friendly reminder for the people that say that the cash shop is not affecting anyone else not deciding to use it. They took away the option to buy some of these items with gil (yes, we could buy past years' items on a vendor once the event returned) in order to sell them there for real money. There's also the fact that the aforementioned Achievement Certificates system gets like a 0.000001% of the care that the MogStation does with its constant updates. Or the inventory issues that "magically" go away if you pay an additional sub (not even P2W games do this, as the additional inventory/bank slots that you pay for there are permanent). Etc.

    About SE or the devs "needing" money, or the MogStation's cash coming back to the game, I think that it would be smarter to ask SE to give the devs more money from the subs (which is not a small sum) instead of incentivizing them to keep taking that money to other projects that often fail (see FFXV). I mean, these devs and this game are the ones bringing the money, and we -the FFXIV players- the ones giving them said money for this game. It would only be fair to not make it work under such a strict budget, and making players get less for their money, when they (as in SE) would even be bankrupt and gone without this game's developers and playerbase. If only they did that, we could even see the spaguetti code fixed one day, and a lot of the issues related to that sorted out. Maybe the devs could take some well deserved rest, too. Be a smart consumer, not just for your own interests, but for those of the game/product that you like.

    Just my 2 cents. And mostly my opinion, so take it as that.
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  2. #82
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Krile set is in garlond tools too
    Hair is connected to the hood not a separate thing
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  3. #83
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    Miminming's Avatar
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    Arclest Aura
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    The motorbike is the only item that can be said P2W

    Because :
    Default 2 star movement speed=faster MSQ progression=faster DOH/DOL progession=more GIL

    Even that is not that much to fuss about though...
    (1)

  4. #84
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Miminming View Post
    The motorbike is the only item that can be said P2W

    Because :
    Default 2 star movement speed=faster MSQ progression=faster DOH/DOL progession=more GIL

    Even that is not that much to fuss about though...
    If SE wants to the turn FFXIV into P2W, there would be very little to stop them. The temptation will always be there because of the Mogstation.
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  5. #85
    Player DonovanLifeweaver's Avatar
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    Vormav Tengille
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Miminming View Post
    The motorbike is the only item that can be said P2W

    Because :
    Default 2 star movement speed=faster MSQ progression=faster DOH/DOL progession=more GIL

    Even that is not that much to fuss about though...
    faster msq xD the whole shb took me 4 days to clear! with 1 star movement.... with 2star movement i would have saved 6 hours...... wich still means 4 days to clear msq of shb
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  6. #86
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Bike is not pay to win
    Doesn't clear content
    Doesn't max out my gear
    Mount speed is handy for ARR but outclassed by flying
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  7. #87
    Player DonovanLifeweaver's Avatar
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    Vormav Tengille
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Imagine people wanting things in the actual game that you don't have to give even more money for it.
    It's crazy, isn't it? You're getting so heated over it. You must work for SE to be this riled up.
    Jesus Cripes.

    Girl asks one simple question for being her first post and everyone is at each others throat.
    I guess contents dried up again and back to our regularly mob and torch parties on these forums.
    take part in events and check the event vendors theres always a way to access outfits and glamour.
    also... not because you pay wityh gils gold plats or w/e currency you can think of that someone didnt spend real cash.
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  8. #88
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I'm really hoping to see the summer stuff from last year or whatever. I hate that I missed them. The sandals, the top, the sunglasses, the booty shorts. I need them. Right now.
    Endless summer stuff is on the mogstation, and I literally just bought it!
    (3)
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  9. #89
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    Hrothgar Lothbrok
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    It's not a bad thing that people have the option to throw money at the game they're (already) paying to play,
    but, it does take away the option for other people who don't want to pay extra, to obtain said items without paying.
    This could be justified if there were other options for obtaining them in-game, no matter how grindy, given as Primal mounts are already grindy enough.
    The seasonal items and skip potions I understand, but other than that is just plain greed.
    So yes, it does concern people who don't want to buy cash shop items.
    I've had my share of items from the Mog Station, but I'd be happier if you had the option to grind for them.
    It would be worth it if they actually put more effort in changing the game for the better, but as far as I'm concerned,
    they just repeat the same formula every expac. (With a couple of extra wasted content here and there ie. Diadem, Eureka, Blue Mage)
    (1)

  10. #90
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    It's not a bad thing that people have the option to throw money at the game they're (already) paying to play,
    but, it does take away the option for other people who don't want to pay extra, to obtain said items without paying.
    This could be justified if there were other options for obtaining them in-game, no matter how grindy, given as Primal mounts are already grindy enough.
    The seasonal items and skip potions I understand, but other than that is just plain greed.
    All the items that are cash shop exclusive are made by a separate team and would not exist if not for the cash shop team being a thing. They were hired/brought on for the express purpose of making items that would be sold seperately from the ingame stuff. You are losing nothing by them existing and options have not been limited. Likely the higher ups would not have approved their re-allocation to FFXIV without a financial reason.
    Yes it's for profit, but it's a company and understandable. This isn't like DLC that was cut from the game and then charged for later. They aren't charging for anything we would have had anyway (if we're not considering seasonal stuff, which I understand the reason for business wise).

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    So yes, it does concern people who don't want to buy cash shop items.
    I've had my share of items from the Mog Station, but I'd be happier if you had the option to grind for them.
    It would be worth it if they actually put more effort in changing the game for the better, but as far as I'm concerned,
    they just repeat the same formula every expac. (With a couple of extra wasted content here and there ie. Diadem, Eureka, Blue Mage)
    It really would be nice if we had more funding for the main game from it's actual revenue instead of them having what amounts to a lemonade stand on the side for extra "allowance". But I cannot fault them too much for what the cash shop is: Completely straightforward, optional, and cosmetic luxury purchases. No RNG, no lootbox crazyness, no "I win" purchases (though in a PVE game this is really minimal impact anyway).
    (3)
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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