New Mog Station items?

[TwistedTea]

I mean, I get it. But I don't really see such business practices here. We don't have loot boxes or boosters (like increased gil gain, more exp per kill, etc), which is what most of this refers to. Would I love being able to obtain everything in game? Of course. But a mount or outfit here and there isn't that big of a deal. In the mobile gaming industry, they thrive off of people who want things now, and will pay whatever they can to get them as fast as possible. That is where this issue you've brought up is the most prevalent.

It's Just Cosmetic

We joke that glamour is the true end-game but there is some truth in it.

People want their characters to look cool/stand-out in a virtual world.

I'm ok with regional exclusives and previous event items being locked to the Mog Station but I do think in a game that you buy to play and pay to play, there should be an emphasis on earning such items through achievements in-game.

[Vahlnir]

It's Just Cosmetic

We joke that glamour is the true end-game but there is some truth in it.

People want their characters to look cool/stand-out in a virtual world.

I'm ok with regional exclusives and previous event items being locked to the Mog Station but I do think in a game that you buy to play and pay to play, there should be an emphasis on earning such items through achievements in-game.

I respect your opinion and generally agree with it. But the fact remains that the cash shop exists, and they will continue to add to it as long as it remains profitable (so basically, for years and years). So...like it or not, it is here to stay. And they add way more to the game than the Mogstation with every patch. Obviously I would prefer they would add less, but so long as it does indeed remain largely cosmetic, I don't care. Businesses gonna business.

[Komarimono]

This should be required viewing for anyone looking to defend microtransaction monetization practices because they're "purely optional" and "companies need to make money."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S-DGTBZU14&t=794s

If for some reason you're not able to handle his crass presentation, this will serve as well and still covers the same scummy business practices behind mtx.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ywdh1on_HU

Here's the original talk without commentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNjI03CGkb4

This is what these corporations who exist to make money think of you. You are a psychological problem to solve to extract maximum money from your wallet.

Are you really so ignorant to post something that has literally nothing to do with the Mog Station? Have you even watched those videos? They are speaking of predatory micro transactions and loot boxes. Neither of which you will find in the Mog Station.

Predatory meaning, they offer items that grant you the chance to progress or you're stuck, or a lottery type system to grant you an item, with a low percentage of getting anything good.

Holy moly that is just plain stupidity on your part to even link such things as if they've any correlation to the Mog Station. Ya, tell me how that decorative outfit for your glamour or how a mount breaks the game into your favor. Fantasia are actually wanted by others as well.

But wait, you'll bring up the job skip! That bypasses the content! Yes and no, it's mostly for those leveling jobs or having issues with it, honestly just a time saver and not much of one. And leveling said job doesn't give you any impact greater then the player who spent the few hours to level it instead.

[Adrestia]

Are you really so ignorant to post something that has literally nothing to do with the Mog Station? Have you even watched those videos? They are speaking of predatory micro transactions and loot boxes. Neither of which you will find in the Mog Station.

Predatory meaning, they offer items that grant you the chance to progress or you're stuck

https://imgur.com/hgzRMm9

But wait, you'll bring up the job skip! That bypasses the content! Yes and no, it's mostly for those leveling jobs or having issues with it, honestly just a time saver and not much of one. And leveling said job doesn't give you any impact greater then the player who spent the few hours to level it instead.[/QUOTE]

https://imgur.com/ADdPi5s

They know job skips aren't competitive advantage. They're convenience. The top target in the same video where he explicitly states the vast majority of your (the game developer's) revenue will come from.

This applies perfectly well, you just have to be willing to think about it instead of snapping off how SE would never be like that.

[Komarimono]

https://imgur.com/hgzRMm9

But wait, you'll bring up the job skip! That bypasses the content! Yes and no, it's mostly for those leveling jobs or having issues with it, honestly just a time saver and not much of one. And leveling said job doesn't give you any impact greater then the player who spent the few hours to level it instead.

https://imgur.com/ADdPi5s

They know job skips aren't competitive advantage. They're convenience. The top target in the same video where he explicitly states the vast majority of your (the game developer's) revenue will come from.

This applies perfectly well, you just have to be willing to think about it instead of snapping off how SE would never be like that.

Again your ignorance knows no bounds. The convenience aspect is specified, even in the videos, on limiting you to a dead halt. To then offer a pass with a minor cost.

Candy Crush and other mobile games is the focus of this. Run out of lives? For only a few cents we can get you going once more! Can't get the level? Try these bonus items that could help you get past it!... maybe...

I mean I hate to be rude and mean, but it's a field I've sadly had experience in, in the past. I know the definitions, how the exploit people of their money little by little. It's not something I'm proud of, but what you're doing is reaching for anything to try and look like you're in the right for your opinion, which is all it is, not a fact.

Edit: And again, the complaint of the video is loot boxes. Most of the items we can get from events, if missed the event can get in the store. When SE brings loot boxes in FFXIV, then I'll see a reason to complain.

[Delis]

This should be required viewing for anyone looking to defend microtransaction monetization practices because they're "purely optional" and "companies need to make money."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S-DGTBZU14&t=794s

If for some reason you're not able to handle his crass presentation, this will serve as well and still covers the same scummy business practices behind mtx.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ywdh1on_HU

Here's the original talk without commentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNjI03CGkb4

This is what these corporations who exist to make money think of you. You are a psychological problem to solve to extract maximum money from your wallet.

Sure I would agree with you if the mogstation was anything like the cash shops in AAA games but it isn't. All the items are cosmetic and gives you zero advantage, as well as you get what you paid for i.e random chance like loot boxes. If you want to buy items from the mogstation cool, if not cool. It doesn't affect me in anyway if someone goes out and buys a cosmetic outfit or a mount.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

This should be required viewing for anyone looking to defend microtransaction monetization practices because they're "purely optional" and "companies need to make money."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S-DGTBZU14&t=794s

If for some reason you're not able to handle his crass presentation, this will serve as well and still covers the same scummy business practices behind mtx.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ywdh1on_HU

Here's the original talk without commentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNjI03CGkb4

This is what these corporations who exist to make money think of you. You are a psychological problem to solve to extract maximum money from your wallet.

It tickles me that these people get so bent out of shape over something that literally has no impact on them. Ever.

[Adrestia]

It tickles me that these people get so bent out of shape over something that literally has no impact on them. Ever.

Heroin has literally no impact on me. Ever. I still think it's an important social problem.

Besides that, I don't believe at all that mtx shops have no impact on me. The entire industry is shifting and has shifted due to excessive monetization practices. Games today are designed in completely different ways specifically because of the allure of microtransaction profit.

[NealSnow]

the issue is that eso plain sucks. eso stopped being good after orsinium, imperical city and when cash shop went out of control and that players used the cash shop to sell crowns for golds.
trade golds, in game currency, to buy crowns.... crowns buy you cash shop items. get it?
eso is a grave yard that relies on cash shop to stay alive. because the game is broken and has nothing to offers. its by far the worst example you could have used to add weight to this debate

Wait wait wait, I agree it sucks as I tried to get into it 5 times but the combat and shop turn me off. But you can use crowns for gold now in eso?

[DonovanLifeweaver]

Wait wait wait, I agree it sucks as I tried to get into it 5 times but the combat and shop turn me off. But you can use crowns for gold now in eso?

trade crowns for gold to another players so other players can buy cash shop items, gametime or expansions that comes out every 3 weeks. rmt 101
its an encouraged behavior protected by zenimax and bethesda.
thats how the game stays alive and thrives as THE number one cash grab game on the market