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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    If you compare it directly to only Flare, then sure. But compare it to the dps of the entire rotation
    It's been done.
    Past level 68, Fire II is a DPS loss.
    Before level 50, Freeze Spam is the most effective AoE rotation.

    Following figures all based on 3 enemies. (adding more enemies makes the gap in dps bigger)

    Freeze > Fire III > Fire II > Flare > Flare (transpose) [repeat] equals 2616 potency over approx. 15s or 174.4/s
    Freeze > Fire III > Flare > Flare (transpose) [repeat] equals 2256 potency over 12s or 188/s
    More Flares via Manafont/Ethers just bumps those numbers up but the gap is still in favour of no Fire II.

    If you do your 2x Fire II rotation.... it's even worse.
    Freeze > Fire III > Fire II > Fire II > Flare > Flare (transpose) [repeat]
    That's 2976 over 18s, or 165.3/s

    That's without any instant casts.

    If you swift one of the Flares, then it becomes 12s and 9s respectively, for a difference of 218/s with Fire II v 250/s without.
    Triplecast three Flares with Manafont, and it becomes a difference of 347/s with Fire II and 444/s over 7s without it.

    Only case where it almost evens out is if you Triplecast a single Fire II plus 2x Flare, then it's 373/s with Fire II, and 376/s without. But that's mainly because without the Fire II you're wasting a Triplecast proc.
    Your 2x Fire II this way works out to 297.6/s, and if you Swift + Triple cast for all four instants, that's 372/s for your best possible output.

    So yeah, Fire II is a flat DPS loss.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 07-22-2019 at 11:44 PM.