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  1. #11
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    Alphras's Avatar
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    Rojer Alphras
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Same can be said for Holmgang. Failure to heal fast enough after triggering the 1hp safety threshold results in a dead Warrior.
    Ironically, Living Dead is arguably easier to prepare a response to than Holmgang. I might be alone in this but since I have the Tank as my target nearly always, I can see the Living Dead icon when it pops up and when it flips into Walking Dead.
    Holmgang is fine as an emergency cooldown and I never saw a WAR using it as a planned CD for big pulls (contrary to DRKs with Living Dead). It makes a huge difference if I just need to keep the tank alive or have to heal 120k+ in 10 seconds.
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    Last edited by Alphras; 07-22-2019 at 02:37 AM.

  2. #12
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    Ea Sin
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Same can be said for Holmgang. Failure to heal fast enough after triggering the 1hp safety threshold results in a dead Warrior.
    Ironically, Living Dead is arguably easier to prepare a response to than Holmgang. I might be alone in this but since I have the Tank as my target nearly always, I can see the Living Dead icon when it pops up and when it flips into Walking Dead.
    You have no obligation to bring the warrior back up to full though, just give him enough padding, which can usually be accomplished with a couple of skills (and never mind having all the time in the world to do so). The same can't be said with LD.

    Also, there's the case of using it against multiple busters, like titania fae light or tethers where you can't actually heal the DRK right away. It's always a tight fit (even if you do some of the healing upfront) and it'll require a lot of resources. Often times just sharing + cooldown is less of pain to handle as a healer. Kind of sad really seeing as none of the other invulns suffer from this.
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    Last edited by EaMett; 07-22-2019 at 05:35 AM.

  3. #13
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    Winter Gem
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    Brynhildr
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    I had a DRK use do all six tethers on Titania Extreme by themself. They used cooldowns for the first 4 and went Zombie on the fifth. Living Dead is incredible when you look at what it's capable of but healing throught it without a WHM is a nightmare. I hate seeing it on my Scholar especially in dungeons. You blow every tool you have and still have to rez them and then have no tools to heal with while they have weakness.
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  4. #14
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    Buff LD to 15-20 seconds plz.
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  5. #15
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    Nibb Omniseer
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhorn View Post
    Lmao WHM just says Bennnyyyyyy!
    It's easier yes, but unfortunately then you're just using your cooldown because of someone elses instead of using it for an emergency heal. Hopefully something gets looked at with either SCH/AST or Living Dead itself.
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  6. #16
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    Rojer Alphras
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Buff LD to 15-20 seconds plz.
    This wouldn't fix anything. The problem is the amount of healer ressources it requires.
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  7. #17
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nibb View Post
    It's easier yes, but unfortunately then you're just using your cooldown because of someone elses instead of using it for an emergency heal. Hopefully something gets looked at with either SCH/AST or Living Dead itself.
    if walking dead was triggered in a dungeon then that is an emergency lmao. walking dead being proc'd means you've already let me die, what other emergency are you waiting for?
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  8. #18
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    Aubrenard Sondraix
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Do you know what would be even better? If the devs simply created an UI element on the party HP bars to show when Living Dead was active and how much remaining healing is required to cleanse the effect. It would be significantly more useful than half of the things that they decide to make UI gauges for.

    Living Dead requires a rework though. It's probably the single worst designed ability in the game. Even the English tooltips are wrong.
    something like the HP bar turning purple and healing adding white/default color till it's back to normal (like a negative-shield sort of feeling).
    it'd also be a great visual indicator for healing-dooms, like in TG cid and so on.
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  9. #19
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    Pond Hollow
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    I had a DRK use do all six tethers on Titania Extreme by themself. They used cooldowns for the first 4 and went Zombie on the fifth. Living Dead is incredible when you look at what it's capable of but healing throught it without a WHM is a nightmare. I hate seeing it on my Scholar especially in dungeons. You blow every tool you have and still have to rez them and then have no tools to heal with while they have weakness.
    Presumably you should just let them die so you have the resources to fix them up when they revive.
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  10. #20
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphras View Post
    This wouldn't fix anything. The problem is the amount of healer ressources it requires.
    Would at least make it more manageable than panic button spamming the Tank to try and ensure he survived.
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