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  1. #101
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    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by sexythaumaturge View Post
    First of all, that’s extremely rude. Go back and read about all the suggestions and controller layouts people use.

    Second, I use the L2+face buttons space for some OGCDs needed while moving, and enemy aggro move/pickup. Worked fine in all other tanks, only Gunbreaker is asking me to relearn everything for it.

    If you have nothing to suggest, don’t resort to pettiness and insults. This topic is a legitimate suggestion.
    Here is suggestion #1 - 1 button
    /macroicon "gnashing fang"
    /action "Continuation"
    /action "Gnashing Fang"
    /action "Savage Claw"
    /action "Wicked Talon"
    Suggestion #2 - 2 buttons

    /macroicon "gnashing fang"
    /action "Gnashing Fang"
    /action "Savage Claw"
    /action "Wicked Talon"
    Suggestion #3 - 3 buttons

    /macroicon "gnashing fang"
    /action "Gnashing Fang"
    /action "Continuation"
    /macroicon "savage Claw"
    /action "savage Claw"
    /action "Continuation"
    /macroicon "Wicked Talon"
    /action "Wicked Talon"
    /action "Continuation"
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  2. #102
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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Character
    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Personally I feel some of the button changing is really clunky. Like the Phoenix 2, if you hit it slightly late at 1-2s trying to get the last Brand before it expires you sometimes end up hardcasting Outburst.

    Personally it flows decently how it is, having an ogcd on the same button as the combo 2-3 times in a row would feel weird. You might end up accidentally ruining your mid Keen combo mashing the same button for Eye Gouge when it changes back abruptly if you started gnashing mid Keen combo. Not being able to see your in progress Keen combo because it's covered by the Gnashing until it is over would also be slightly annoying. I'd rather keep the extra control and have the extra buttons personally.
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  3. #103
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    Riastrad's Avatar
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    Mercutio Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    Just give ps4/controller players the option to turn on the pvp combo system. One button for the whole thing, and those that don't want it can leave it off. Problem solved.

    Would also help people with hand troubles. Not a hard concept given it is already in game.
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    Just my opinion. Won't lose sleep if you don't like it.

  4. #104
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    Arthrun's Avatar
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    Arthrun Findore
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    For a keyboard and PC its super nice rotation for me.

    123 for my first main combo
    Alt+1, mouse button, Alt+2, mouse button, Alt+3, mouse button
    Aoe rotation shifts to bar 2, 1 2 3 4
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  5. #105
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    Arthrun's Avatar
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    Arthrun Findore
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Riastrad View Post
    Just give ps4/controller players the option to turn on the pvp combo system. One button for the whole thing, and those that don't want it can leave it off. Problem solved.

    Would also help people with hand troubles. Not a hard concept given it is already in game.
    I would actually play DRG and maybe some other Jobs if this was in place.
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  6. #106
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    Vanitas's Avatar
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    Character
    Vanitas Olterian
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I'm not having any issues on a controller to justify this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarboroughFairy View Post
    You say that, Mac, but all I'm reading is:
    "This exceedingly customizable layout isn't comfortable to me as a controller player, so I demand the fundamentals be gutted and replaced with something I'm comfortable with."

    Either keep trying to find something that works for you and develop the muscle memory needed to adapt to how you play the class or drop the class entirely. Based on the number of people who stand contrary to your OP, myself included, you and the other small handful of players are outnumbered in regards to opinion. Maybe the average Gunbreaker doesn't find this class any at all difficult. Maybe it really is something you're doing wrong or could be doing better.

    I LOVE YOU. Everything you just said perfectly explains what I and many others have been trying to say this whole thread. The class is fine, if OP can't get a handle of it then maybe it's not the class for him. I'm willing to show him how to get a comfy set up but you read what he wrote. Nothing is good enough but gutting the class apparently. The combo is fine. If being the number 1 tank doesn't prove that then I dunno. Again.. thank you for this post. Truer words haven't been spoken.
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  8. #108
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    Komarimono's Avatar
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    Character
    Komari Mono
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Gonna have to agree with Insertcoins now. Admitting am wrong on this account it seems, since if even my macro's can't help, not sure what can. My macros it turns out are actually a DPS increase after some testing, so saves you one button, and makes ya pew pew more. Though may only be a DPS increase if ping is low like mine? Others would have to test and remember that Continuation has to be macro'd first.

    Either way, I have 33 abilities hotkeyed, so I personally can't use the controller often or easily. But am sure I could find a way if tried. I believe Insertcoins is right and you are not trying if I am honest now.
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  9. #109
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    Yue Nocturnalis
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Generally, combat macros are not recommended as macros can't be queued up, and it's impossible to ride your global cooldown effectively while using them. But since it's been tested out by people here and shows that it works, by all means, please use it.

    Honestly OP is just complaining for the sake of complaining now :T
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLittlestLala View Post
    I'd rather grow tastebuds on my own butthole than see any of the OP's posts.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    It's the Asstral Calamity, wrought by the dread primal Bahabutt.

  10. #110
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ScarboroughFairy View Post
    I'll probably get called an elitist by someone hurtmad here, but you should not macro combat skills.
    Quote Originally Posted by Annoynymoose View Post
    Please don't do this.
    So as dumb as it sounds, it actually works (at least without Continuation weaponskills thrown in) for one reason: it's a forced sequential combo. There is no "100 potency, X combo bonus: Y" qualifier in them like standard weaponskills, meaning that weaponskills later in the combo aren't usable unless you perform the combo in its proper sequence.

    Quote Originally Posted by sexythaumaturge View Post
    This works surprisingly well, even with three Continuations thrown in there. But you have to be very precise with the timing, or mash the button due to macros failing to queue, otherwise I feel like I’m losing milliseconds that might add up later. But it works well enough for me to yearn for a single-button solution. Nothing would really change - the combo ends in like 5 seconds anyway.
    I'm thinking timing it so button presses are about half a global. Once I hit 70, I'll fidget with it a bit more, but right now I'm just doing the back-and-forth between two buttons whenever I'm doing HoH, which does work for now.
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