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    Amei Lotus
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    White Mage Lv 80

    Why do tanks have so many skills?

    Am I legitimately supposed to keybind every one of these skills? Why are the combo skills not combined like Thancred's? I have ran out of space and I am afraid to run GNB because I can't use its full potential... Am I missing something? This just makes me wanna run back to my WHM and be unable to help my friends who need tanks...
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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 90
    Do you just have one hot bar? You can have up to like 10, I think. Maybe get another one.
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    Yeulasa Astraldeis
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AmeiLotus View Post
    Am I legitimately supposed to keybind every one of these skills? Why are the combo skills not combined like Thancred's? I have ran out of space and I am afraid to run GNB because I can't use its full potential... Am I missing something? This just makes me wanna run back to my WHM and be unable to help my friends who need tanks...
    ..."So many skills"?
    Now I don't know what you have on your hotbars but I'll tell you this; I am on PS4, I use a controller and main warrior and have ever since Heavensward. Ever since then I've seen the skills on my job's hotbar be reduced for every expansion and now I have barely 2 hotbars that I use. It's so awkward seeing empty slots so I just put the same skills in twice to fill slots.
    Don't tell me we have "so many skills". No, we have "so few skills".

    So please, don't make SE remove even more slots. I already button mash one button too many times, don't make me do that for my normal combos aswell.

    Remember, I speak with warrior in mind and warrior only, as that is what I know best.
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    Last edited by Astraldeis; 07-21-2019 at 07:45 AM.

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    Shin Shimon
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    Hades
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    If you can't fit all of your damage skills and damage-related cooldowns onto the 16 buttons of the default controller crossbar, I think you have too many skills. GNB has two extra (I've had to put bloodfest and burst strike onto crossbar 2). However, DRK fits all of them easily, and can even fit all job skills + role skills + 2-3 extra buttons onto just two crossbars. Only MCH and I think SMN have less crowded hotbars.
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
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    Samurai Lv 74
    You have to watch this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xsqL68V8CI

    I have absolutely 0 problems playing all 4 tanks and i play on PS4 controller.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 07-21-2019 at 08:11 AM.

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    Venan Rehw-dvre
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    Mateus
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Tbh, I know what OP is talking about. I mained DRK/WAR and I had a few bits of room with 3 bars. Gunbreaker which I'm assuming he's playing took me by surprise taking up every single hotbar I had... all 3 of em anyways. I still managed tho. Just have to be flexible and adjust what hotbars you have and what hotkeys you can bind.
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    Last edited by Valic; 07-29-2019 at 05:20 PM.

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    Leo Lupinos
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I hope SE don't reduce even more because of this thread. It's already lacking.
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    DRKoftheAzure's Avatar
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I just put stance skills on expanded cross hotbar and macro skills that require a specific target also on expanded cross hotbar for off tanking, and I also use gamepad with double cross hotbar and I have my skills arranged to when I get them by level, but I always make sure that Sprint and Limit Break are on my hotbar, so if I have room for more abilities on my hotbar before I get to Sprint and Limit Break, we have too few abilities...


    Except GNB, GNB has just the right amount of abilities for my WXHB.
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    Tamamo Cat
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AmeiLotus View Post
    Am I legitimately supposed to keybind every one of these skills? Why are the combo skills not combined like Thancred's? I have ran out of space and I am afraid to run GNB because I can't use its full potential... Am I missing something? This just makes me wanna run back to my WHM and be unable to help my friends who need tanks...

    ...
    Eh?
    ...
    What?
    Yeah um... you need to keybind those skills because they are COOLDOWNS you know... for tankbusters? Offensively tanks have the least amount of options for a rotation than DPS so a large chunk of it is used for cooldowns.

    Seriously? Someone is complaining about too many skills on tanks. Need I need to introduce you to WAR right now? I have empty slots on my hot bar at level 80!
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I've only got the PLD at 80, and quite franky I don't mind them removing another 4-5 buttons from the PLD. I literally fill 3 rows of hotbars, with only 2 slots for markers ("1" and "2") and 1 for LB.

    I consider this the bare minimum:
    • 1 to turn on Iron Will that loves to turn itself off due to level syncs
    • 7 role actions: all of them are used regularly
    • 7 for core rotation: Fast Blade > Riot Blade > Royal Authority + Goring Blade + Atonement and Total Eclipse > Prominence
    • 4 for mana dump: Requiescat > Holy Spirit + Holy Circle > Confiteor
    • 2 for utility: Shield Lob + Intervene
    • 2 off-GCD for weaving: Spirits Within + Circle of Scorn
    • 6 cooldowns: FoF + Sentinel + Sheltron + Hallowed Ground + Divine Veil + Passage of Arms
    • 3 others: Clemency, Cover, Intervention

    A total of 32 buttons. Add to that Shield Bash, which comes in handy in very situational circumstances, but useful nonetheless, 2 markers, and a LB, and I have 36 buttons, exactly 3 full bars. One could perhaps say this is "perfect". Which it actually is, for me, as I actually do have 36 keybinds all accessible on my left hand without taking my little finger off the Shift key. But I do hope at level 90 they remove a couple of these.

    I cannot bring myself to use "I didn't have it on my hotbar" as an excuse to failing a situation that I otherwise could have perfectly handled. I think that's failure not only as a team player, but also as a gamer.
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