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    So be forever stuck with egis because people want to RP is what you are telling me?

    Also, I'm not sure what core we are supposedly removing here? What's the difference between having an egi or a demi by your side other than the latter not looking like an absolute joke? Demis attack whenever you attack and whatever you attack at the same time, have you ever seen Ifrit-Egi in the add phase of Lakshmi EX? Now that's some level of utter garbage right there. Pray so that they don't release similar stuff to that.
    Not only Demis feel a lot better gameplay wise, they are cooler design wise, so yeah, if this class is ultimately dragged by the "but I want to have a cute adorable egi at my side" bunch of people, then all I can say it's going to be a real shame. But hey, whatever, at the end of the day, if that's what people really want, so be it, majority decides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    So be forever stuck with egis because people want to RP is what you are telling me?
    Gotcha, so you pick one item off the list and suggest it's my whole argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Also, I'm not sure what core we are supposedly removing here? What's the difference between having an egi or a demi by your side other than the latter not looking like an absolute joke?
    You seemingly skimmed over what I suggested as reasons why some people still like egis. Functionally egis and demis are different and I've already explained how. Well, they were more so before the ShB changes, less so now, but that would tie in with my initial comment about fixing them instead of deleting them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Not only Demis feel a lot better gameplay wise, they are cooler design wise
    I mean, such things are always a matter of opinion. So it's not so ludicrous that there are people who see it differently. Dismissing it as "well if that's what you want go play Pokemon" is just daft. Especially as you're saying this in favour of a blue Charizard and a Moltres. And also egis were here first, so the old "if you don't like it go somewhere else" mentality simply doesn't work.

    But I am speaking as somebody who likes both.

    But honestly, I think if it is just an aesthetics issue, then SE could resolve that through expanding the egi glamour system. Then everybody wins. They already solved the scaling issue of demis. They gave BRD a system for them to live out their job fantasy, it'd be no harm for them to do that to summoners too. The pay off could also be, you could have your Phoenix permanently out if you chose to and it does Ifrit moves. I didn't like the look of Garuda, but I like the look of Ifrit, my Garuda egi is a Carbuncle, but Ifrit isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    You seemingly skimmed over what I suggested as reasons why some people still like egis. Functionally egis and demis are different and I've already explained how. Well, they were more so before the ShB changes, less so now, but that would tie in with my initial comment about fixing them instead of deleting them.
    Lore? We can summon both bahamut and phoenix, and the latter is stronger. RIP lore.
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    [edit] And for transparency, I misread and thought you quoted a different part of my post, which I wrote a response for and I have edited with a relevant response. So if my original response was caught, I am happy to put my hands up and say "I screwed up". If it wasn't, then I have already put hands up and said "I screwed up" and probably sound like an idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Lore? We can summon both bahamut and phoenix, and the latter is stronger. RIP lore.
    The latter is also temporary and you cannot sustain their form after a certain amount of time, egis can be summoned for as long as you like, whilst the former are more powerful, the latter are sustained - so it's not like from a lore standpoint they'd permanently replace the egis.

    Though I'm not sure how any of this contradicts or is an argument against any points I've made because you seem to be avoiding addressing them.
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    Last edited by Saefinn; 07-29-2019 at 12:29 AM.