It is time to get rid of them SE...

[Dyvid]

That's what they've tried every time. And they've failed.

I agree with the TC, it's about time they get rid of them entirely. SE has been unable to make them interesting gameplay wise, and aesthetically speaking, they couldn't be more ugly, so good riddance, not a single aspect of them will be missed. If anybody wants to have fun with cute flying pets you always have a million pokemon games.

Should we delete Demi-Summons too because they don't work all that well either? They have a weak 150 potency attack and can miss Enkindle if moving. If you don't like cute flying pets, there are 16 other jobs to chose from.

Agreed. I wouldn't miss the egi if they were gone, and I hope that them being slightly de-emphasized in Shadowbringers they're inching us closer to their complete removal in the next expansion.

Summoner shouldn't be a "pet" class that has some kind of entity following them around like a dog. If you want that experience, wait for them to release the Beastmaster/tamer limited job and live out your dreams.

Len, with all due respect I think we are past the should of, could of, would of point in job development. We have permanent pets and temporary pets. Going forward SE needs to build a solid rotation around Egi and Demi. After which it's time to add one and done summon spells rather than more Demi. You cast Odin, it does a straight line attack that damages everything in it's path, the vanishes. You cast Alexander, it does a AoE attack then vanishes. And so on.

P.S. I think Beast Tamer is going to be a Pokemon style mini game Limited Job.

Honestly I didn't read the whole thread but I always wondered why the Egi's weren't handled as the summons from FFXI.

Since the game was so reliant on dodging AoE and position for melee, they didn't want to obstruct other players view with massive beast. The also said but i'll don't think its as true today that they didn't want to diminish the Primals we are fighting. So Egis are designed small that have both the aspect of the original primal and it's elemental counter part; Fire Sprite

[Saefinn]

Should we delete Demi-Summons too because they don't work all that well either? They have a weak 150 potency attack and can miss Enkindle if moving. If you don't like cute flying pets, there are 16 other jobs to chose from.

"If you want Charizard and Moltres you should play Pokemon."

I think that's what their response ought to be. :P