It is time to get rid of them SE...

[Volanesh]

Those egis doesnt serves any purposes anymore outside of the ruin 4 carrot, you have erase the only things interesting about them, their utilities, now radiant shield and contagion are gone and those egis feel even more like weak glorified auto attacks you have to use ogcd in an already bloated kit.

Next expansion get rid of them.

ps: Bye bye, i have wasted enough time on this forum ^^

[kidalutz]

I'm kind of inclined to agree with this one.

Summoners have become a Pet Class with no real pet.

Basically what it boils down to is that while we micromanage the pet now it really has so little damage impact that it doesnt feel as if we summoned an aspect of Fire Earth or Wind it feels as if we made a little useless creature that does hardly anything. The whole idea behind being a pet class is that your pet does at least 1/2 of your overall damage is not a full 3/4s of it instead they've become an auto attack feature that comes in three varieties do you want you auto attack to hit a bunch of things a single thing or do you want to survive being curbstomped for like 4 seconds while you run around casting like a wannabe Black Mage. The really sad part is I was absolutely stoked that we would finally be able to micromanage the pet but in so doing it became little more than a graphic wet noodle. And while I feel this can be rectified It also feels as if the damage may be done.

[Shawnerz]

The egi's seem to do damage comparable to a dot tick so I kind of just view them as a third dot. I do kind of wish the egi assaults were more impactful. When looking at the damage breakdown it doesn't feel right that ruin is our main damage source with pets being secondary. Should be the other way around.

[Dyvid]

/no
I prefer to fix the problems rather than delete them.

[dinnertime]

They've tried fixing the Egi's ever since ARR and it's always been a failure. Right now in 5.0 is perhaps the worst these Egi's have been. They're a buggy mess, weaker, imbalanced and also lost utility which was what made them relevant in the first place. They've had so many chances to fix them and yet they haven't. They need to move on, but I'm sure they won't either.

[Dyvid]

Honestly, I've been on the boards a long time and it's the same song and dance with a new twist; damage is underwhelming. Even if/when the adjust the damage the end of the day people are going to still say remove Egis. The heart of the issue isn't how they perform, the damage they do, the utility they have, or if they are even a buggy mess. It's appearance, it's always been about appearance. This has been the number one issue people on the boards have had since 2013.

[kidalutz]

Honestly, I've been on the boards a long time and it's the same song and dance with a new twist; damage is underwhelming. Even if/when the adjust the damage the end of the day people are going to still say remove Egis. The heart of the issue isn't how they perform, the damage they do, the utility they have, or if they are even a buggy mess. It's appearance, it's always been about appearance. This has been the number one issue people on the boards have had since 2013.

I could care less what my egis look like if they look like thier normal selves or carbuncles I want them to feel like a pet class which they absolutely do not feel like right now whatsoever. so your appearance theory just doesn't fit.

[Razard]

I could care less what my egis look like if they look like thier normal selves or carbuncles I want them to feel like a pet class which they absolutely do not feel like right now whatsoever. so your appearance theory just doesn't fit.

Bullcrap.

They have never been more of a pet class than they have right now. You actually have to manually command them to do things, instead of sic, forget and enjoy your third dot. They even react to your commands now as long as you don't spam the buttons like a lunatic. Don't give me that "muh tank egi" rubbish. No one used Titan, especially at Lvl70 when Demi-Bahamut became a thing. Heck, you never used him at any 50 or 60 anyway because he couldn't keep hate off you with even the most rudimentary damage you pumped out.

The only problem at the moment is damage, which is a easy potency/ pet damage calculation fix. And the abrupt difficulty spike between Stormblood and Shadowbringers, which is a more nuanced problem.

[ReiMakoto]

Replace the egi assults with demi assults 1,2,3. 1 is gaurda, 2 is titan 3 is ifrit, and pressing it summons a demi of these primals to do a singal attack, Mistral Song, Incinerate, Landslide.

[kidalutz]

Bullcrap.

They have never been more of a pet class than they have right now. You actually have to manually command them to do things, instead of sic, forget and enjoy your third dot. They even react to your commands now as long as you don't spam the buttons like a lunatic. Don't give me that "muh tank egi" rubbish. No one used Titan, especially at Lvl70 when Demi-Bahamut became a thing. Heck, you never used him at any 50 or 60 anyway because he couldn't keep hate off you with even the most rudimentary damage you pumped out.

The only problem at the moment is damage, which is a easy potency/ pet damage calculation fix. And the abrupt difficulty spike between Stormblood and Shadowbringers, which is a more nuanced problem.

1. Dont tell me how I played I rather enjoyed Titan thank you much

2. NO THEY DO NOT FEEL LIKE A PET CLASS! again Pet Class indicates the at least half of your damage is coming from your pets not yourself. atm they're doing maybe 1/10th of the damage.

3. I already said I enjoyed the micromanagment bit that you can do but they do not feel like a pet class the pets feel like an afterthought not the forefront of what a pet class is..

4. what difficulty spike?