What is Missing in 2.0 - Ways to Level classes

[Kerath]

I know we don't have all the details about 2.0 but I keep feeling that there is still a huge issues with XIV when it comes to character progression. I feel like we have very few ways to gain levels. They are:

• Leves
• Sidequests
• Behest
• Dungeons
• Caravan Escort

Leves - I hate to say this, but I have been thinking about WoW and something they do really well is breadcrumb the player. You go from one hub to the next doing quests that teach the player about the people and the lore of the world. I get that most of the quests are essentially the same, go kill 10 xyz things. In XIV you just repeat leves, behest, and dungeons over and over. At lease Blizzard covers up their grind with new locations enemies and lore as the player progresses through to highest level. WoW has thousands of quests and XIV has maybe 100. I am not saying that questing is going to fix XIV's leveling. I guess I just want more variety in how we level.

Sidequests - A joke if you consider them a way to level your classes, you can only do them once and it seems like are more about getting some gear for free and to teach you some lore. All in all they seem like a waste of time.

Behest - Super grindy and seem pointless, I haven't done in months and months

Dungeons - More low level dungeons would be nice. All we have is 1 R15 and 1 R25.

Caravan Escort - I have only done this to grind company seals at R50, so no leveling here. I know I could do the lower level one maybe to get seals and level.


Upcoming in XIV 2.0

• Hamlet Defense - I am not sure how Hamlet Defense is going to play into leveling our characters but it sounds interesting.
  
• PvP Collisium and Frontlines - I don't imagine this will have anything to do with leveling your classes.
  
• Crystal Tower and Labyrinth - Sounds like endgame, so no leveling
  
• Wondering Odin - Sounds like engame, no leveling.
  
• Primal Battles - more endgame or just aquiring cool gear, no leveling.

All in all it just seems like we are still going to lack ways to level out classes in 2.0 and it will be another reason why people won't be attracted to playing FFXIV.

[RyuNin]

Because in FFXIV you use parties to play. That's the main leveling tool that you left out.

[TirionCrey]

Yeah, it's a party based lvling system. Quests are not meant to lvl your character and I personally like that. In XI Quests didn't even give XP, they were lore only and I liked that as well. I tend to skip all the quests in most MMOs due to them being only a cover up for lvling, while in FFXI they were pure story and I did them cause I wanted to, not to lvl my character.

It's what I liked about XI as well. You play in parties to progress, which at the same time teaches you how to play your class/job in a group and therefore prepares you for endgame.

[Felis]

You missed Garlean Empire battle (1.22) and Garlean Empire Legatus battle (1.23)

Caravan Escort - I have only done this to grind company seals at R50, so no leveling here. I know I could do the lower level one maybe to get seals and level.

The trick is to change your class in the right moment. The same with primal battles. Don't talk to the quest npc after the kill with your level 50 class.

[TirionCrey]

You missed Garlean Empire battle (1.22) and Garlean Empire Legatus battle (1.23)

the Story needs to make a huge jump in 1.22 and 1.23 though, otherwise it would feel very "abrupt" fighting against them without any sort of "pre encounters".

I want to see more Garlean Empire involvement in Eorzea itself...like camps building up at the borders and stuff like that.

Personally I think the Dalamud thing getting bigger and threatening red is awesome, just keep that coming in regular intervals.

[Rousseau]

I would love to see a large story-related quest system, similar to WoW. It is already possible to solo all the way through this game via leves (in fact, I can do so faster than leveling in a party), and I doubt they will revert to the leveling system in XI. Most people don't have that kind of time to dedicate in one sitting. This is perhaps the biggest thing I find lacking in the game, and I really do hope they are able to work on it.

[TirionCrey]

It is already possible to solo all the way through this game via leves (in fact, I can do so faster than leveling in a party)....

I highly doubt that. Lvled my PUG from 40 to 45 in a matter of 3h doing spiritbond PT...can't beat that with leves, not even nearly.

[Rousseau]

I highly doubt that. Lvled my PUG from 40 to 45 in a matter of 3h doing spiritbond PT...can't beat that with leves, not even nearly.

It took me about an hour to go from 48 to 50, so that is about the same. Perhaps I am just extremely efficient.

[Kidkaze]

I agree with RyuNin, the main way to level in XIV is to use parties, but I also agree with you in respect that we the players need to be moved from hub to hub in order for party play to stay fresh and new. Not to bring up a dirty topic, but in XI I enjoyed going out and levelling in a party even if I was just whacking reskinned mobs, because the areas were different and it seemed fresh and exciting for me to do so, but that could just be me.

There was a whole big thread about giving us different areas to level somewhere on these forums, it was actually a hot topic for a while, but I can't for the life of me remember wtf it was called lol.

[Aion]

It took me about an hour to go from 48 to 50, so that is about the same. Perhaps I am just extremely efficient.

I am interested on the number...48-50 almost 200k exp right? roughly leves takes 5-10 minutes (counting from taking the leves on aether), lets say you need 180k , on 1 hour you can do 6 - 12 leves. on 6 leves you need average 30k exp, on 12 leves you need 15k exp... I never saw one leves can net above 10k exp...

please do correct me