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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardox View Post
    You started by saying that you can't use animation to determine the the element of a spell, then latter started to make statement on elemental aspect of spells based on their animation. Then, when you got served the exact same statement you made yourself you started to object.
    I "started" in this thread, because I knew the exact argument Gruntler was going to make, because he was simultaneously making the same argument in another thread.

    I objected on the grounds that the evidence presented was not conclusive by its own merits; one does not need to take all evidence as equally valid just because they're all presented in the same argument, especially when so easily refuted as "Are you and I literally even looking at the same thing?"

    Here I'm not refuting anything, I'm stating something. I'm saying that your biased.
    Coming from the guy who earlier simply said,

    Quote Originally Posted by Ardox View Post
    I feel all CNJ/WHM healing spells are somehow water aspected... A bit like Legend of Mana
    I don't think my bias and headcanon are affecting my arguments. I don't know what aspect Vercure or Benefic are, and I honestly don't particularly care -- but I know that the argument that they're

    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntler View Post
    water-aspected by process of elimination.
    ... is insufficient and observably wrong.

    corps-a-corps, engagement, displacement, and the melee combo are all piercing damage that all use the int stat (except for the unenchanted version).
    When Enchanted, the melee combo explicitly states that it is Unaspected damage and inherits from Embolden. It's only physical damage when unenchanted.
    Regardless, we're still majority Magic damage and would have far greater benefit out of a Magic vulnerability buff, and that doesn't at all prove Fleche is an Ice spell.
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    Last edited by Archwizard; 08-02-2019 at 11:14 AM.