Nah, that's just matching the tone you set.
Elemental damage type is cosmetic because without elemental vulnerabilities or resistances to differentiate them, the game renders them all as "magic" damage. My fire spell of 270 potency does the same damage as my earth spell of 270 potency.Then you point out that elemental damage-type is purely cosmetic but can't get over the point that Fleche and Contre Sixte are unaspected? It already been explained to you that the damage type was piercing so it would synergize with piercing debuff when those debuff were a thing.
Ironically, the old physical debuffs towards Slashing, Blunt and Piercing damage actually made physical damage types relevant.
So yes, the two are simultaneously valid arguments.
Nobody actually said anything about synergizing with the piercing debuff, but it is worth pointing out that would be literally the only ability in our arsenal to use piercing damage, and we would have gotten more value out of a magic vulnerability debuff like Contagion regardless.
Well if you're going to ignore the progression of the argument to make a strawman...Finally, when you say that animation is not a valid proof, it's sound debate. but when you get served that exact same argument it's no longer "addressing the argument"?
To be clear: Gruntler made the case that the color and animations were one thing, I provided observations that his argument was incorrect.
I didn't say that animations in general were not solid proof. I refuted him on the level that he was arguing.
You then chimed in that I was basing my evidence on observation "and no hard data," implicitly stating that you considered animations not to be solid proof, while also claiming the Shiva swords are "evidence" and that magic vs physical damage types are irrelevant. That in itself is a hypocritical argument.
Plus I mean... you do know what ice is, right? Literally, scientifically, crystallized water -- "crystallize" is just another form of "solidify".
Compare an ice cube to a clear quartz crystal and they'll look very similar. That doesn't mean they're the same.