-sigh- Could Hunt Immunity be a thing...?

[Aylis]

I really hate to be 'that guy' and suggest this, as the purpose of hunts isn't apparently supposed to be cooperative (as people supposedly say), but a lot of people treat it that way nonetheless. The ideal world situation is folks maybe wait 2 or 3 minutes at the most, but generally, this doesn't happen. Its making the act of linking hunts kind of pointless as well lol.

So, anyways, could a forced "Immunity" status be applied to hunts for 2 minutes or like a minute 30? Just something to allow people to gather up, which seems to be the general wanted action, but some folks are just impatient, or honestly, some people thrive off of negative attention.

IDK, just a thought. Roast me off the Mothercrystal, please!

Edit Note: My character on the forums is not one I mostly use, this is not occuring on Gilgamesh (that I'm aware of lol), but I will not specify, just intend to bring it up as an issue.

Hunts were never designed around a server army showing up to them and have always been first come first serve. Yoshida said this before and even with an immunity system there's always going to be that one person that loses it.

Honestly with all the arguments about hunts and early pulling over the coarse since the system was introduced I'd be more inclined to support a claim system more then anything else now at this point just because it's getting old.

[Kemiko]

If we're talking immunity, I say make hunts immune to damage from 95% of players. Only allow a small group with a buff to attack the hunt. Solves your problems with early pulling, eliminates that zergfest nonsense and it would reward actual hunters.

This is the most sensible thing I've read thus far.

[OcieKo]

Or if they want it to be smaller group content, reduce respawn timers to being an hour or 2 not a dozen or 2.

The super long respawn time along side the very high count achievement (with noteworthy reward) pretty much force created the issue. There's a reason you don't really see B rank callouts.

[KageTokage]

I think just making the hunt take significantly less damage for the first minute or two of combat would help.

Not to mention that would allow them to consistently get through a full cycle of their mechanics before they die.

[EnigmaticDodo]

Ive just gotta say, it seems like people are of the mind of 'if you don't spawn it, then you can't say anything'. What if you do spawn it and wish for this to happen? lol

[Machi_Machiavelli]

Or just make traveling faster. Whether that means more places to teleport related to hunts, faster mounts, flying in ARR zones, etc.

[Alucard135]

Ive just gotta say, it seems like people are of the mind of 'if you don't spawn it, then you can't say anything'. What if you do spawn it and wish for this to happen? lol

The problem is, hunts are not designed like FATEs. Take a look at what happens with FATEs. You have a weather change, timer, level syncing, needs a large number of people to kill, and for ShB areas you have a chain of fates that lets you know it's about to spawn. This all points out to them being designed as a server kill. But if you look at hunts, the only thing now that you have is a message about a powerful hunt mark when it spawns. And can actually be defeated by a single full party. So they're not designed to be only downed by a large number of players like FATEs. The S ranks in ShB areas die in less than a minute, while FATEs can last from 5-10min depending on the number of players. So this different treatment from FATEs point out to hunts being "free for all no rules" kill.

[SamSmoot]

If it's dying before you get there, then there were enough people gathered.

I usually get there to find 0-1 players nearby, and this is on an overstuffed server. This happens so often that I don't even bother going to investigate unless it's nearby in the same zone and instance.

[Nixxe]

If you gave it a Immunity you would still have people complaining. Also you might simply dont know how long they have already waited anyway. Maybe your hunting ls got it the last and they have already waited 10 minutes. I know it might sometimes be annoying to get there and its already death but at the same time if you are not out actively hunting then do you even have a right to complain? I only feel for those that spawn it but then have someone else ninja pull it but at the same time those spawners are already there.

In the end you wont find one perfect time either. I had a discussion with a friend who is a LS leader. He said that people should wait 10 minutes after calls for ARR S ranks because without flying it might take time. I said 5 minutes should be enough and even went ahead and rode through Coerthas and needed around five minutes for a complete circle, so enough time to get there.

If there are enough to kill it then it was enough time.

Even 5 minutes is excessive. Personally, I'm a fan of what I (and probably no one else) think of as "The Balmung 2," which means you have around 2 minutes from first call to arrive at a hunt before Soul Jah gets bored of waiting and pulls it. Keeps hunts really efficient, and the people who are actively helping to scout and spawn hunts generally aren't the ones missing them anyway.

[Alucard135]

Even 5 minutes is excessive. Personally, I'm a fan of what I (and probably no one else) think of as "The Balmung 2," which means you have around 2 minutes from first call to arrive at a hunt before Soul Jah gets bored of waiting and pulls it. Keeps hunts really efficient, and the people who are actively helping to scout and spawn hunts generally aren't the ones missing them anyway.

Didn't know Balmung had Soul Jah too lol.