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    If anything I've only seen prices go down. So far by practical measurements all it has done is even out the marketboard prices. If someone is yoinking from a cheap server and selling it expensive on theirs, everyone still has the opportunity to shop on other servers for the cheap price. I made a large portion of gil for about 2 expansions by buying glamour dispelling prisms from a vendor who was literally 30 meters away from a MB and selling them for nearly twice the price. Footwork for profit isn't a new thing.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    I love that I can go to another server to buy things. Cause sometimes when I want something my server either doesn't have it or it's way to costly. So please keep the ability to buy things from other servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kogasan View Post
    I love that I can go to another server to buy things. Cause sometimes when I want something my server either doesn't have it or it's way to costly. So please keep the ability to buy things from other servers.
    Then let sellers sell on those other servers or link all MBs up (per data center of course).

    Otherwise get rid of being able to buy on other servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post
    Then let sellers sell on those other servers or link all MBs up (per data center of course).

    Otherwise get rid of being able to buy on other servers.
    Why is it either or?

    They will eventually introduce a cross-world marketboard, until then, buyers have choice, there is no downside unless you're a price gouger.
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    They've already said linking MBs is not (yet) technically feasible for them.
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    The grand plan is likely to link all market boards together on a data center so that we don't actually need to cross world travel in order to buy/sell on it.

    When SE work out how to do that all will be well, at least we'll have more customers and buyers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doljax View Post
    No thanks. I like being able to flip things from other worlds. Besides, cheaper things on smaller worlds is good for newer/poorer players.
    They are never good because you guys dumps prices to ridiculous low amount. Anything that is not lvl 80 mat is like dirt and because of it new players struggle to get any gil at all.
    Low prices are bad, gil cidculates slowly and there is less opportunity for average player to make good gil on mb.
    If there is anything, people visiting low populated servers are completely destroying their economy, they lower prices to vendor selling price and anyone on the server playing will struggle to gain any gils because THERE ARE MORE SELLERS THAN BUYERS AND MARKET BALANCE IS COMPLETELY messed up.
    The person visiting other server should not be able to sell stuff on it.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 07-19-2019 at 07:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    They are never good because you guys dumps prices to ridiculous low amount. Anything that is not lvl 80 mat is like dirt and because of it new players struggle to get any gil at all.
    This problem was not caused by cross-world buying. Yes, some mats don't sell well on the marketboard. Find the ones that do, and farm and sell those. There are plenty that are sub-80 - and even sub-70 - which sell for a pretty penny still. Elementary MMO money making.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Low prices are bad, gil cidculates slowly and there is less opportunity for average player to make good gil on mb.
    Low prices are good, because it makes DoH classes easier to level, which in turn allows people to produce items that are worth something. A player not doing research into what they can capitalise on to make money is not an issue caused by cross-world trading.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    If there is anything, people visiting low populated servers are completely destroying their economy, they lower prices to vendor selling price and anyone on the server playing will struggle to gain any gils because THERE ARE MORE SELLERS THAN BUYERS AND MARKET BALANCE IS COMPLETELY messed up.
    If only there was some kind of measure through which it could be stabilised; something through which prices could reach something of an equilibrium. Also, the problem of mats selling for vendor prices was not caused by cross-world trading.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    The person visiting other server should not be able to sell stuff on it.
    They should, because it has not as of yet had a demonstrably negative impact.
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    so we don't wipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doljax View Post
    This problem was not caused by cross-world buying. Yes, some mats don't sell well on the marketboard. Find the ones that do, and farm and sell those. There are plenty that are sub-80 - and even sub-70 - which sell for a pretty penny still. Elementary MMO money making.
    Materia price went down to dramatic low amounts for instance too, a tons of things did.
    I play on low-pop server and i used to make quite a big money on materia alone and materials for tomestones, after they introduced server visiting everything went down and so my income from around 5 mil a week went to under 1 mil.


    Quote Originally Posted by Doljax View Post
    Low prices are good, because it makes DoH classes easier to level, which in turn allows people to produce items that are worth something. A player not doing research into what they can capitalise on to make money is not an issue caused by cross-world trading.
    Price of the equipment barely changed mate, it was the materials and other stuff that is being sold mainly got giant price drop to the floor. Newer players and poor players and average players have it 10 times worse to earn gil than before and i speak here out on my experience. I was able to just resell a lot of vendor stuff for profit, because everyone had gil to spend and it was running through the market in much bigger quantities than now. Can you sell stuff from vendor for profit now? I doubt.
    When i started playing on Zodiark people were buying paint from me because they could afford it, now they dont because every gil is much more valuable and harder to get...


    Quote Originally Posted by Doljax View Post
    If only there was some kind of measure through which it could be stabilised; something through which prices could reach something of an equilibrium. Also, the problem of mats selling for vendor prices was not caused by cross-world trading.

    They should, because it has not as of yet had a demonstrably negative impact.
    No, there is no system that will fix it.
    Just block selling options for those that are business-visiting, because they take all the stuff from twice or three times as big markets and bring them to small ones completely destroying any balance. 50 of guys like this and price drop like crazy, because they are flooding market with goods that this market just cannot buy.

    Low prices casued by flood of supply doesnt benefit anyone, it makes it harder to make any gil at all.
    Server visiting makes it easier to manage RMT, its should be restricted heavily.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 07-19-2019 at 10:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Materia price went down to dramatic low amounts for instance too, a tons of things did.
    I play on low-pop server and i used to make quite a big money on materia alone and materials for tomestones, after they introduced server visiting everything went down and so my income from around 5 mil a week went to under 1 mil.



    Price of the equipment barely changed mate, it was the materials and other stuff that is being sold mainly got giant price drop to the floor. Newer players and poor players and average players have 10 times worse to earn gil than before and i speak here out on my experience.




    No, there is no system that will fix it.
    Just block selling options for those that are business-visiting, because they take all the stuff from twice or three times as big markets and bring them to small ones completely destroying any balance. 50 of guys like this and price drop like crazy, because they are flooding market with goods that this market just cannot buy.

    Low prices casued by flood of supply doesnt benefit anyone, it makes it harder to make any gil at all.
    Gouging our lower pop server only helps gougers to earn money.

    Not to mention, people earning less Gil matters less because they're now free from overpriced items and can shop around in accordance to how much money they're able to earn. Why should be people complain that they're earning 1M less, when now they can buy a crafted primal weapon for less than 1M instead of 5-10M?

    Purchase power should dictate regional pricing, not the other way around.
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    Last edited by JohnSpawnVFX; 07-19-2019 at 10:05 PM.

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