Page 7 of 9 FirstFirst ... 5 6 7 8 9 LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 124

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Azureskies's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    21
    Character
    Azure Dawn
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MaybeOliverB View Post
    Just make lvl 17 alts on those other servers and sell your stuff on the entire data center. Best way to reach gil cap right now.
    It might be a joke but I am tempted to so something of the sort. Get my brother to be on the lowest pop server and just buy a whole bunch of cheap crap i put up just to have him buy it and sell it at stupid inflated prices on other servers then do it the other way around.

    As asinine as that idea is it will work in the current system.

    If you can't make others see reason, exploit the system yourself.
    (0)

  2. #2
    Player
    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    4,932
    Character
    Y'sira Kurai
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post
    If you can't make other see reason, exploit the system yourself.
    Since when are sellers not doing that? Pricing is usually set at what the market will bear. One only has to see how prices are raised the minute the low priced items sell. They'll typically double or triple the prices until someone comes and resets prices back to normal levels.

    Increased selling competition only serves to hold those seller instincts in check.
    (4)
    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 07-19-2019 at 09:19 PM.

  3. #3
    Player
    JohnSpawnVFX's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    915
    Character
    Kaynneth Menad
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post
    It might be a joke but I am tempted to so something of the sort. Get my brother to be on the lowest pop server and just buy a whole bunch of cheap crap i put up just to have him buy it and sell it at stupid inflated prices on other servers then do it the other way around.

    As asinine as that idea is it will work in the current system.

    If you can't make others see reason, exploit the system yourself.
    Yup, you know nothing about selling stuff ingame.

    1 - the lowest pop server, except for very rare exceptions, has always the biggest stupid inflated prices
    2 - if you buy X at the lowest pop server for 15M then try to sell it elsewhere for 50M, people will just keep buying X from other vendors with actual reasonable prices and you'll never get your stuff sold. Not to mention others would kickly undercut you and bring the price massively down.
    3 - asking devs to change it back because you want to sell stuff at overpriced rates and you don't want to drop them is even more asinine than that idea. Even if you could control the market, people would just buy X from someone else on your server. Even linking the MBs wouldn't help because people would just ignore your listings and buy cheaper ones.
    (3)

  4. #4
    Player
    MaybeOliverB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    161
    Character
    M'naago Cat
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post
    It might be a joke but I am tempted to so something of the sort. Get my brother to be on the lowest pop server and just buy a whole bunch of cheap crap i put up just to have him buy it and sell it at stupid inflated prices on other servers then do it the other way around.

    As asinine as that idea is it will work in the current system.

    If you can't make others see reason, exploit the system yourself.
    What? You can literally trade yourself over and over. Why would you even want to use a marketboard to transfer items or gil to other servers?
    (0)

  5. #5
    Player
    Drayos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    292
    Character
    Sethra Rage
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post
    If someone was inclined they could use the gil they already have to find something that sells for 100k or whatever less on another server, buy all of them and then go to their server and sell it for 200k.

    If the servers were all linked (where it was one single MB for all the data center) then the seller would be selling directly to the people of every server. If they wanted to do it in a very poor mans way they could just let you sell on other servers without making them one MB to rule them all. That way the person selling would be able to sell their goods on what ever server they wanted.

    As it is right now having "Traders" that just go from server to server buying a some goods and then reselling them on their server is dumb.

    Pool it all into one MB / let sellers sell on other MBs or restrict it again.

    There is a reason WoW or any other successful MMO hasn't done this.
    Don’t know if you know.. but WoWs AH went through a massive phase where it was broken as hell.

    The reason they don’t do it cause their servers cannot handle it. Don’t presume other games don’t do it cause it’s a bad idea.

    There’s a reason ff14 doesn’t do plenty of things wow does, it isn’t because their dumb ideas it’s a difference of opinon between different developers and in this case completely different cultures.
    (0)

  6. #6
    Player
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    479
    Also, I believe you aren’t understanding something very simple, OP. As someone who has crafted since 2.x Artisans, and has accumulated billions of Gil over the years, I can safely say that the lowering of prices has absolutely nothing to do with increased competition.

    It has to do with the value of two things. Mats, and difficulty of said craft. As of 5.0, mats are extremely easy to get. There is no “challenge” to earning them compared to HW and ARR mats. Difficulty of crafting has been nerfed ever since the addition of Prudent Touch. So that devalues your time as a crafter, thus devaluing everything you make to around 200,000 gil or less. Mostly less. Whereas in ARR and HW, it was more like 600,000.

    You are focusing your attention on the wrong thing. You should be complaining about the overall difficulty, not the amount of competition.
    (4)

  7. #7
    Player
    Nixxe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    1,470
    Character
    Nixx Delumi
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams View Post
    Also, I believe you aren’t understanding something very simple, OP. As someone who has crafted since 2.x Artisans, and has accumulated billions of Gil over the years, I can safely say that the lowering of prices has absolutely nothing to do with increased competition.

    It has to do with the value of two things. Mats, and difficulty of said craft. As of 5.0, mats are extremely easy to get. There is no “challenge” to earning them compared to HW and ARR mats. Difficulty of crafting has been nerfed ever since the addition of Prudent Touch. So that devalues your time as a crafter, thus devaluing everything you make to around 200,000 gil or less. Mostly less. Whereas in ARR and HW, it was more like 600,000.

    You are focusing your attention on the wrong thing. You should be complaining about the overall difficulty, not the amount of competition.
    I agree that the lack of difficulty is an issue, but there's simply no way that this change didn't have a drastic impact on prices on many realms. Bigger realms won't notice much of a change to be sure because they're already fairly well stocked and have a lot of competition, but they will absolutely drag down the prices of the other realms on their data center (or in the case of Balmung, glamour gear, and Crystal, maybe drag them up) because prices varied wildly based on population, especially on more expensive luxury items, and people will absolutely server hop to save a few hundred thousand gild. To be sure each realm will maintain some individuality to their pricing, as the populations on the realms are different and the world visit system is mildly inconvenient, which means players won't likely hop for a 5 gil discount, but the prices data center wide are generally going to be much closer together across the board than they were previously.
    (0)

  8. #8
    Player
    Pinworms's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    640
    Character
    Wiggly Pinworms
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I agree the way the system is now...it’s going to make poor servers and rich servers.
    (1)

  9. #9
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    4,620
    Character
    Seraphor Vhinasch
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    I agree the way the system is now...it’s going to make poor servers and rich servers.
    There were always poor servers and rich servers.
    Now they're just able to directly compare their relative poorness or richness, and circumvent it by buying from other servers.
    (3)

  10. #10
    Player
    Duskane's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
    Posts
    4,163
    Character
    Dusk Himmel
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    i like it

    its like bargain hunting
    (9)

Page 7 of 9 FirstFirst ... 5 6 7 8 9 LastLast

Tags for this Thread