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    Haxaan Shivar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post
    If someone was inclined they could use the gil they already have to find something that sells for 100k or whatever less on another server, buy all of them and then go to their server and sell it for 200k.

    If the servers were all linked (where it was one single MB for all the data center) then the seller would be selling directly to the people of every server. If they wanted to do it in a very poor mans way they could just let you sell on other servers without making them one MB to rule them all. That way the person selling would be able to sell their goods on what ever server they wanted.

    As it is right now having "Traders" that just go from server to server buying a some goods and then reselling them on their server is dumb.

    Pool it all into one MB / let sellers sell on other MBs or restrict it again.

    There is a reason WoW or any other successful MMO hasn't done this.
    You do realize that this is how "we buy your goods and resell them" websites work right? Gamestop, Car Dealerships, and many other companies do the exact same thing. Buy low sell High. In this case, by allowing people from higher populated servers buy items from lower population servers, it lets more currency flow throughout the lower population servers boosting their economy. It also allows people, who may not be the wealthiest on a high population server, buy goods at a lower price than on their over-inflated servers. It is a win-win scenario really. If all the other MBs were linked and you could buy and sell goods it would not help the lower population servers at all because all of the wealthy people on the top control the economy of the entire data center. That is the EXACT opposite of what they are trying to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post
    Then why restrict selling?

    Either get rid of the restrictions or close them off from one another.

    This "High pop servers gets to supply the whole fucking world without its sellers getting their cut" thing is annoying.
    They get their cut when someone buys what they're selling. What someone does with it is no longer their business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    They get their cut when someone buys what they're selling. What someone does with it is no longer their business.
    All that would do is force the same super high price as the lowest common denominator.

    So punish all players for the worst market of the smallest server?

    Nice, by chance are you AOC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post
    All that would do is force the same super high price as the lowest common denominator.

    So punish all players for the worst market of the smallest server?
    No, what it does is placate greedy MB overlords who think they can charge bloated prices just because they didn't have competition before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post
    Nice, by chance are you AOC?
    I sure am, Mr. DP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post
    All that would do is force the same super high price as the lowest common denominator.

    So punish all players for the worst market of the smallest server?

    Nice, by chance are you AOC?
    geez when people said AOC is living rent free in their heads they weren't kidding. We have some dude bringing her up on a FFXIV forums of all places.

    How embarrassing.
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    Last edited by TheLittlestLala; 07-20-2019 at 07:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post

    This "High pop servers gets to supply the whole fucking world without its sellers getting their cut" thing is annoying.
    What in the world are you talking about? Of course the sellers on high pop worlds are "getting their cut". Your complaint is a non-issue, and frankly, there's only benefits to be had (from a macro-economic perspective).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    What in the world are you talking about? Of course the sellers on high pop worlds are "getting their cut". Your complaint is a non-issue, and frankly, there's only benefits to be had (from a macro-economic perspective).
    Yeah I don't get what they were saying either. I make a few hundred thousand gil a day and don't mind peeps from other servers coming over to buy what I put up. That person can sit back down, he doesn't speak for all sellers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    (from a macro-economic perspective).
    It would be like having china not be able to sell goods outside of their country.


    You know nothing about economics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post
    It would be like having china not be able to sell goods outside of their country.


    You know nothing about economics.
    Please explain, as if to someone who doesn't know anything about economics, why this is so horrible to have? (the option to buy from other servers, not the china thing)

    As a casual omnicrafter and marketboard dabbler all i've noticed is that I now have options to get my mats and desirables at cheaper prices. If I sell stuff at reasonable prices they still sell decently. How is this hurting our economy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azureskies View Post


    You know nothing about economics.
    LMAO

    Just keep thinking that to yourself, pal. Maybe someday you'll actually do some research/study and realize how foolish you sound. Your statements have said all we need to know about your "understanding" of economics.

    -Signed International Business/Economics double major and owner of two businesses

    EDIT: To expound on this.

    So before the world visit system, market boards were limited to their own worlds. From an economic perspective, this would be like countries not trading at all with other countries. So each country (world) had it's own price equilibriums

    What world visit did is allow you to sell to people from other worlds (countries). What this did/does is bring all worlds closer to a similar price equilibrium. Before, one world might have sold an item for 100,000 gil, but another sold it for only 50,000 gil. Now the price equilibrium has dropped for the item overall.

    Since anyone can visit any world, there is no need for the ability to sell on another world, as anyone can come to your world if you've got the most competitive prices.

    And the reason they don't allow selling on other worlds is a logistical one, not a design choice. Due to how their retainer system works, that's why you can't sell on other worlds.
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    Last edited by Kaedan; 07-19-2019 at 08:06 PM.

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