Is Manderville Canon?

[Anonymoose]

You'll notice that even Godbert himself behaves differently if you compare the MSQ to the sidequests, so I maintain my original headcanon that there is a "Manderville Bubble" around those. Basically, if it's true within the game world, it's still true within the bubble. The bubble might reveal history or facts that we don't know. On the other hand, we can't ever be sure that anything that happens inside the bubble can transfer back out of it - as even the world lore writers and translators see those quests and are like, "Oh, man, this definitely doesn't make sense." lol.

The core answer becomes: If you want to be a lore purist, there's probably a one way bubble, but every individual player is free to decide for themselves just how canon to consider Hildibrand, but it only applies to them. (Kinda like the blank check to create your own timeline even though you can't change the SEQUENCE of events, just the time between them.)

[Bright-Flower]

You'll notice that even Godbert himself behaves differently if you compare the MSQ to the sidequests, so I maintain my original headcanon that there is a "Manderville Bubble" around those. Basically, if it's true within the game world, it's still true within the bubble. The bubble might reveal history or facts that we don't know. On the other hand, we can't ever be sure that anything that happens inside the bubble can transfer back out of it - as even the world lore writers and translators see those quests and are like, "Oh, man, this definitely doesn't make sense." lol.

The core answer becomes: If you want to be a lore purist, there's probably a one way bubble, but every individual player is free to decide for themselves just how canon to consider Hildibrand, but it only applies to them. (Kinda like the blank check to create your own timeline even though you can't change the SEQUENCE of events, just the time between them.)

Mild SHB spoilers.

I feel like a bit of Mancervilla slipped out when that one viera in the greatwood was popping around like a cartoon character when you meet her.

[Iscah]

You'll notice that even Godbert himself behaves differently if you compare the MSQ to the sidequests

Indeed - he's even wearing pants when he meets with Nanamo...


(I agree with the one-way lore bubble though.)

[YianKutku]

Indeed - he's even wearing pants when he meets with Nanamo...


(I agree with the one-way lore bubble though.)

My snarky contribution to the discussion the last time it came up was that the sign of whether you are in the Manderville Bubble was whether Godbert is wearing pants.

(Notably, the statue of Godbert in the Manderville Golden Saucer has no pants...)

[dragoelete]

Indeed - he's even wearing pants when he meets with Nanamo...


(I agree with the one-way lore bubble though.)

hes a bussiness man so he prolly knows better that to talk to his queen pantseless