Is Manderville Canon?

[Kayetiln]

Title covers the question!

[Hezzlocks]

Godbert Manderville owns the Gold Saucer, and he even makes a guest appearance in the main story quest, with Nanamo seeking his guidance on an important subject.

So, YES!

[Kemiko]

Wait, where did this come from? Are there sidequests that aren't canon?

[Kayetiln]

I misworded, damn me! I mean is the adventures of Hildebrand Manderville canon?

[m3eansean]

Hildebrand is love, Hildebrand is life. The questlines are an absolute requirement in the game.

[Lium]

Hildebrand is love, Hildebrand is life. The questlines are an absolute requirement in the game.

They're funny. But I hated having to massage his back all the time. Doesn't he have an assistant for that? And what's up with that superhuman strength? His dad could slay primals. Should've taken him to the First. The whole thing would have been over in five minutes.

[kidalutz]

Yes yes they are so basically stay on Hildys mother good side if you know whats good for us or Hydaelen will be needing a new WoL.

[Anonymoose]

You'll notice that even Godbert himself behaves differently if you compare the MSQ to the sidequests, so I maintain my original headcanon that there is a "Manderville Bubble" around those. Basically, if it's true within the game world, it's still true within the bubble. The bubble might reveal history or facts that we don't know. On the other hand, we can't ever be sure that anything that happens inside the bubble can transfer back out of it - as even the world lore writers and translators see those quests and are like, "Oh, man, this definitely doesn't make sense." lol.

The core answer becomes: If you want to be a lore purist, there's probably a one way bubble, but every individual player is free to decide for themselves just how canon to consider Hildibrand, but it only applies to them. (Kinda like the blank check to create your own timeline even though you can't change the SEQUENCE of events, just the time between them.)

[Bright-Flower]

You'll notice that even Godbert himself behaves differently if you compare the MSQ to the sidequests, so I maintain my original headcanon that there is a "Manderville Bubble" around those. Basically, if it's true within the game world, it's still true within the bubble. The bubble might reveal history or facts that we don't know. On the other hand, we can't ever be sure that anything that happens inside the bubble can transfer back out of it - as even the world lore writers and translators see those quests and are like, "Oh, man, this definitely doesn't make sense." lol.

The core answer becomes: If you want to be a lore purist, there's probably a one way bubble, but every individual player is free to decide for themselves just how canon to consider Hildibrand, but it only applies to them. (Kinda like the blank check to create your own timeline even though you can't change the SEQUENCE of events, just the time between them.)

Mild SHB spoilers.

I feel like a bit of Mancervilla slipped out when that one viera in the greatwood was popping around like a cartoon character when you meet her.

[Iscah]

You'll notice that even Godbert himself behaves differently if you compare the MSQ to the sidequests

Indeed - he's even wearing pants when he meets with Nanamo...


(I agree with the one-way lore bubble though.)