Lack of End Game Content

[MonteCristo]

Yes, because it remains one of my favourite outfits and I ensure I am glamed that way when playing the class.

I find it more sad that people need something like a low probability level or a high-level content reward to find worth in the item.

When you associate value with difficulty of completion or RNG, you are effectively saying you care about bragging rights above all else.

It could be the ugliest thing, but because it was a low chance of happening, it suddenly gets massive value.

It's like in WoW when they just use the same mount five times but everyone wants the BLUE one because that one is the hardest to get. Doesn't matter if it's identical except in colour, all of the value is placed on how it was obtained, rather than if the item itself is good.

It was about the stats on the item that elevated your level of play in a unique way. Glamour meant nothing at all

[Krotoan]

I get it....and in your defense this is why i am the minority clearly. But ill tell you this...when you did get that item i bet it meant more to you and it became sentimental/meaningful.

NNNope.. it just meant I could move on to the next thing I had to compete with thousands of other players like myself for, for no other reason than the game was made that way. I NEEDED those items to be competitive and attractive to parties. I slightly enjoyed the fact I had a kraken club, but it wasn't just because it was a kraken club. It was because I was now more desirable in a party than all the other shmoes who didn't have it.

Can you say that about any tomestone gear/raid battle piece you ever got? No because once the next patch arrives it will be deemed useless and the treadmill will start all over again.

No game has ever lasted forever, I have since realized that the only value in the game or the items is the enjoyment of the time I'm spending, not the having stuff. I get new raid stuff so I can play the game with my friends and expand my options for doing other things that I enjoy. FFXI was the last game I played that I had spent time playing and sat back and realized I was madder and more stressed than when I started. I may be unique but I have since never continued playing a game where I realized I was spending more time being frustrated than having fun. Video games are all a waste of time. If I wanted to spend time actually achieving something I wouldn't be playing a game.

My yin yang robe took awhile to get and i had to battle pkers,missed claims, etc. but when i did get it..my summoner level of play elevated to new heights and it was a feeling that i have not felt in my entire career of ffxiv. Thats the problem with this generation... want everything on a silver platter and too afraid to face any type of adversity.

Or I realized I didn't want to spend both time and money on something that stressed me out.

[Zabuza]

I guess I will just silently unsub over half of every 6 months like I have been. I didn't realize until this thread that casuals were so invested in making sure raiders never get any new content to have fun with. How dare we want more. Only casuals are allowed that desire. God forbid casuals lose even one thing out of the self-proclaimed never ending content they have to do to help us starving raiders. We're like the peasants that live outside of Eulmore, desperately wanting a place in the great city. The casuals in the city would rather throw out food than let us have any. This is after kicking us out of our houses a decade or so ago and changing the entire government of the city.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

I guess I will just silently unsub over half of every 6 months like I have been. I didn't realize until this thread that casuals were so invested in making sure raiders never get any new content to have fun with. How dare we want more. Only casuals are allowed that desire. God forbid casuals lose even one thing out of the self-proclaimed never ending content they have to do to help us starving raiders. We're like the peasants that live outside of Eulmore, desperately wanting a place in the great city. The casuals in the city would rather throw out food than let us have any. This is after kicking us out of our houses a decade or so ago and changing the entire government of the city.

Oh look, another "Casuals kicked my dog" post.

I'm sure the devs would be more inclined to humor you and your ilk's request, if you dropped the toxic elitist attitude. Remember that all of you were casuals once, and casuals are the ones keeping the servers alive, not you.

[MonteCristo]

I guess I will just silently unsub over half of every 6 months like I have been. I didn't realize until this thread that casuals were so invested in making sure raiders never get any new content to have fun with. How dare we want more. Only casuals are allowed that desire. God forbid casuals lose even one thing out of the self-proclaimed never ending content they have to do to help us starving raiders. We're like the peasants that live outside of Eulmore, desperately wanting a place in the great city. The casuals in the city would rather throw out food than let us have any.

You and me both...im over it...not even going to bother responding anymore. They successfully removed my ffxiv birdbox blindfold today. No long drawn out goodbye post upset ranting or anything like what other people do. Just sub 1-2 months here and there and save my money.

[Zabuza]

Oh look, another "Casuals kicked my dog" post.

I'm sure the devs would be more inclined to humor you and your ilk's request, if you dropped the toxic elitist attitude. Remember that all of you were casuals once, and casuals are the ones keeping the servers alive, not you.

Me, toxic? A lot of the casuals here are trying to stop raiders from having any fun. That is toxic to the genre and to us. Your side is unwilling to make any concessions at all to help us. Do you not understand that because of the casual crowd, we lost the genre of MMORPG we loved? Do you understand the frustration of knowing that is the case and yet you guys are unwilling to even throw us a bone?

Honestly, I can't understand having so much but still wanting others not to have anything. The greed is beyond belief. We can't even have the elemental wheel because Yoshi is afraid it'd be too complicated for people.

[MonteCristo]

Me, toxic? A lot of the casuals here are trying to stop raiders from having any fun. That is toxic to the genre and to us. Your side is unwilling to make any concessions at all to help us.

Trust me he/she doesnt understand...i been loyal to this mess since 2010 and rode with this game from the VERY beginning through its darkest moments. So of course when they come many years later once its revamped and flex the casual "we pay the most money for the game its about what we want" muscle its gonna always resonate harder to the devs because they are the $$$. At this point remove my legacy tattoo and give me my time spent back.......oh wait nvm...that isnt possible. /OGout

[Forever_Learning]

You and me both...im over it...not even going to bother responding anymore. They successfully removed my ffxiv birdbox blindfold today. No long drawn out goodbye post upset ranting or anything like what other people do. Just sub 1-2 months here and there and save my money.

I'm failing to understand how this is a negative?

The developers have said you should sub here and there rather than constantly play the game.

Other players are saying you should sub here and there rather than constantly play the game

and your response is "I'm so upset that I'm just gonna sub here and there rather than constantly play the game!!!!"

Oh no, you are gonna do what people have been recommending this entire thread.

Sounds more like people finally broke though to you more than anything else.

[Zabuza]

I'm failing to understand how this is a negative?

The developers have said you should sub here and there rather than constantly play the game.

Other players are saying you should sub here and there rather than constantly play the game

and your response is "I'm so upset that I'm just gonna sub here and there rather than constantly play the game!!!!"

Oh no, you are gonna do what people have been recommending this entire thread.

Sounds more like people finally broke though to you more than anything else.

And yet all these people saying they never run out of things to do, even while playing consistently throughout the cycle. But it's okay for them to have that, but not raiders? If this was how it's meant to be played, how come a lot of casuals are able to be consistently entertained throughout the entire cycle? That's not playing the game as Yoshi intended.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

And yet all these people saying they never run out of things to do, even while playing consistently throughout the cycle. But it's okay for them to have that, but not raiders? If this was how it's meant to be played, how come a lot of casuals are able to be consistently entertained throughout the entire cycle? That's not playing the game as Yoshi intended.

Probably because they do every content that's available to them in moderation, instead of locusting content that interests them and deeming content that doesn't as unworthy or unfit for them, and then claiming there's nothing else for them do.

That's the kicker here. You actually have more content to do than casuals. You have the content that's available to them + content they will never be able to touch except maybe unsynced with echo. You have more content than casuals yet you cry there's nothing to do. That's where you lose respect from casuals. "I'm too good to do such lowly content"