Lack of End Game Content

[linay]

It's objective. That is the accepted definition of the word. I disagree with the meaning of many words, but that doesn't change what the words mean. Neither you, nor I, are the gatekeepers of the English language.

So when people say "there's a lack of endgame content" they are using the common meaning of the word, not the meaning you think it ought to be.

Even then, endgame does not imply difficulty setting or format. It only refers to the final stage of a game. Only, in an ongoing game like an MMO, it is slightly modified to specify where the game takes a pause in some way like reaching temporary level cap.

Level 80 MSQ is endgame content even though MSQ itself starts at level 1. And things like crafting can also be part of endgame content even if crafting itself also starts at level 1 (or level 10 if you count your first DoW/DoM class) because there is part of crafting that can only be done at level cap or is done for the purpose of helping with doing other endgame content.

While leveling itself is not endgame content, having multiple jobs at level cap for one character means more tools for your character just like getting optional gears, and it feeds into gearing for those additional jobs and completing endgame quests that require different roles or different jobs and provides variability to doing endgame content, which lengthens the time you play endgame content (aka level cap content).

[Kaylessa]

While leveling itself is not endgame content, having multiple jobs at level cap for one character means more tools for your character just like getting optional gears, and it feeds into gearing for those additional jobs and completing endgame quests that require different roles or different jobs and provides variability to doing endgame content, which lengthens the time you play endgame content (aka level cap content).

The time consuming part is the leveling, not the doing of max level content which is the point I believe. That once you finish leveling your jobs there really isn't all that much max lvl content to do.

[Catwho]

It's obvious that's not what people are referring to when they bring this subject up and it's such a poor deflection of the issue. Any OCD person can invent tasks for themselves to do in the game and claim they aren't out of things to do, the problem is as a staple of the genre this game fails hard at the relevant content that comes with the genre expectations. Endgame PVE content comes with the territory of MMOs. That's just the way it is. So when it's not there, people notice and they do get kind of upset.

I will object to this concept of "inventing tasks" - the achievement score race is very much real in this game. The tasks are built into the game, and the total score is tracked in public on the Lodestone. Various websites over the years have compiled it (currently Lala achievements has taken over since XivDB stopped.) https://lalachievements.com/en/ranki...vement/global/

Is being a completionist participating in "endgame?" No, I concede it is not. But it is also not an arbitrary, made up time sink either. SE wouldn't bother formally tracking it both internally and externally if they didn't intend for it to be available as a yardstick.

[Nims]

Pretty bored with FF14 right now, but I don't know what else to play. I thought about resubbing to WoW, but I know that 99% of what I mentally map out for myself to accomplish won't be done.

I log in to that game and instantly lose motivation.

I'm pretty bored too and I've only been back for a little while. I'm also burnt out because I had to slog through a bunch of irrelevant crap just to get to the fun stuff.

I'm thinking of just going back to BDO. Lots to explore, lots to do, and everything technically matters.

[RareItems]

I'm pretty bored too and I've only been back for a little while. I'm also burnt out because I had to slog through a bunch of irrelevant crap just to get to the fun stuff.

I'm thinking of just going back to BDO. Lots to explore, lots to do, and everything technically matters.

Your better off getting bored in FFXIV or playing another game than going back to BDO lol. That game has been nothing but a weekly disappointment ever since the November 2017 disaster.

[Eriane_Elis]

Yoshi P always complained about the limited budget they had to put into the game but now that FF14 is the new WoW, I'm sure their budget will be increased to allow a crazy about of new content. I just hope it's quality and not just quantity.

[gumas]

Pretty bored with FF14 right now, but I don't know what else to play. I thought about resubbing to WoW, but I know that 99% of what I mentally map out for myself to accomplish won't be done.

I log in to that game and instantly lose motivation.

maybe an offline game could help? iam bit bored too with FF14 now, just login, do daily, log out. my method for something like this is to play something the exact opposite of FF14 style game. FF14 is slow and tab target so i recommend to play something fast and energetic.

thankfully there is a bunch of other games that i play right now and iam enjoying so far.

- iam really enjoying EDF5 so far <--- my main game right now
- new wolfenstein is out
- got several mobile games that keep me somewhat busy


dont fixated on single game like FF14, it will get you bored... fast. especially when you are pretty much done with it and only there for daily and new content.

[Zabuza]

Yoshi P always complained about the limited budget they had to put into the game but now that FF14 is the new WoW, I'm sure their budget will be increased to allow a crazy about of new content. I just hope it's quality and not just quantity.

I wish that what you say was the case. FFXIV has already been their biggest moneymaker as of late and they have still diverted funds from it to other projects. I think it is a mistake, as FFXIV is quite popular now, and could be more so if they would pay it some additional attention.

[van_arn]

Yoshi P always complained about the limited budget they had to put into the game but now that FF14 is the new WoW, I'm sure their budget will be increased to allow a crazy about of new content. I just hope it's quality and not just quantity.

They clearly put more money into the new expansion versus the cobbled-together mess that was Stormblood.

[BlitzAceRush]

I wish that what you say was the case. FFXIV has already been their biggest moneymaker as of late and they have still diverted funds from it to other projects. I think it is a mistake, as FFXIV is quite popular now, and could be more so if they would pay it some additional attention.

Because unfortunately its working, despite yours and others complaints the game has continued to grow, gain more players it's not faltering or stalling out its still going in its stride and until something goes wrong SE are going to see no need to change anything.

People have been saying ARR needs fat trimmed as it turns away new players, I agree but the game pulls in more than it notices leave because of ARR.
PVP people want more, but the game continues to grow so it doesn't notice the people who want more PVP, can't get it and leave.
People want more end-game, more hardcore content more long lasting content but the game continues to grow without it so onward it goes.

That's why someone way at the start of this thread said the best thing all you people who want more end-game more hardcore content could do is leave permanently, not to get rid of you but because the only weapon SE will listen to is the bottom line, Yoshi listens but he can only work with the resources hes got so a shift to more of what you want is unlikely as is even if you did all leave as so long as the game continues to grow and thrive under its current model SE won't miss you.

You keep asking why the casuals aren't willing to give up a little of what they have for you but why should they? There are better options for what you want elsewhere just as this game suites their needs, you keep trying to tell them this game would be so much better and would tap its "true potential" if they just give you what you want, but what dose that mean to them? How is taking something even small away from themselves for content they have no interest in better the game for them? It dose not.

You're asking them to take something they like and alter part of it into something they do not, it's not surprising you'd get push back more so when you're telling them the 90% of the game they enjoy is irreverent to you while your 10% should be increased at the cost of theirs when there are games that already cater better to you and worse to them, but they are not there asking for it to suite them but you are here telling them to suite you.