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    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    I never claimed to be "hard core" however, your "well-known" site, should show that I have completed all level 80 content successfully, multiple times to receive best in slot for my main, up until the patch that was released moments ago.

    Heres a quick screenshot that demonstrates I have all Tomes gear on the left, Titania weapon and all innocence accessories to debunk your opinion.



    Your post just seems a poor attempt to defame, unsuccessfully I might add.
    Well played /westillhaveyourback
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    This thread has stopped being Productive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    This thread has stopped being Productive.
    Because people refuse to discuss the topic. They'd rather discuss who has the 'right' to talk about it and exactly who are hardcore raiders and what it entails. Just sheer idiocy TBH *shrugs*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    The best players in the world should clear content fast, but if it takes them only a day or two then S-E has completely failed in tuning. The world first clears should take 7-14 days. Sadly, this first tier will be dead within 24 hours. That really isn't acceptable.
    It's a failure in tuning if it doesn't meet what they intended, but apparently, it does. If you disagree, then you might have a different philosophy than the developer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylessa View Post
    Because people refuse to discuss the topic.
    You don't get to reject a topic that's introduced in the opening post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    You don't get to reject a topic that's introduced in the opening post.
    They weren't. You keep trying to introduce things you want to discuss that have nothing to do with the opening post purely to promote an agenda. Case in point your idea that old content with different rewards is "endgame content", it isn't, it's old content with different rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylessa View Post
    They weren't. You keep trying to introduce things you want to discuss that have nothing to do with the opening post purely to promote an agenda. Case in point your idea that old content with different rewards is "endgame content", it isn't, it's old content with different rewards.
    These are the very first two sentences in the opening post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    We all know Final Fantasy has a formula for each expansion. The question is, is it enough to keep max level players sated.
    If you don't see how broad of a topic answering that can lead to, that's your problem.

    Even the final question can be answered differently than you might expect:
    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    I'm interested in knowing what other players think who have experienced other MMORPGS at max level. Do you find yourself running out of things to do at max level? Obviously this excludes things like, leveling, old content etc.

    If not - please provide examples of the kind of content you play at level 80 that keeps you busy.
    A valid potential answer to that is: Yes, FFXIV has less hardcore endgame content than what I'm used to in other MMORPG, but I find myself enjoying the non-hardcore content as well (edgame or otherwise), so I can keep myself busy doing them in between Savage tiers, especially with Ultimate added to the mix. And there are other games I play as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylessa View Post
    Because people refuse to discuss the topic. They'd rather discuss who has the 'right' to talk about it and exactly who are hardcore raiders and what it entails. Just sheer idiocy TBH *shrugs*.
    Yer not going to get anywhere in this topic. 95% of people here for the last 100 some odd pages parrot the same tired crap, ad naseuem that has nothing
    to do with the title or op's post. There is no argument to it so people need to keep going back to
    "Did you get X Y Z?" So...with what said, I guess people agree that there's no real end-game.
    Endgame doesn't mean going back to level 1 on another job lmao.
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    As of Stormblood patch 4.1, FFXIV's endgame cycle is generally 4 Savage fights followed by an Ultimate fight. The four savage fights last us 3 months, and the 1 Ultimate fight lasts 3 months. The goal of Savage progression is to gear up to be ready for Ultimate; this means 8 weeks as a near minimum for all the gear necessary to tackle it. Not everyone is going to attempt Ultimate due to its sheer difficulty, however it is a fight that on its own will last people 3 months easily.

    So with Ultimate, the endgame in my opinion has a nice round cycle of "3 months to gear, 3 months to win the challenge, repeat." I can understand people who don't do Ultimate not agreeing, because then the entire 6 month cycle kind of loses its point and you're left with 3 months of nothing.
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    I either buy my own sandwich or I end up with pork-nostrils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Yer not going to get anywhere in this topic. 95% of people here for the last 100 some odd pages parrot the same tired crap, ad naseuem that has nothing
    to do with the title or op's post. There is no argument to it so people need to keep going back to
    "Did you get X Y Z?" So...with what said, I guess people agree that there's no real end-game.
    Endgame doesn't mean going back to level 1 on another job lmao.
    Me: "I really like this game, but I've done all end game content my max level can do, I wish the game had more end game content for my main to enjoy..."
    Them: "HAVE YOU LEVELLED OTHER CLASSES"
    Me: "Well yes, I've maxed a few but I don't even see how that remotely counts as content for my mai-"
    Them: "OKAY SO YOU HAVEN'T DONE EVERYTHING"

    It's a little silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    Me: "I really like this game, but I've done all end game content my max level can do, I wish the game had more end game content for my main to enjoy..."
    Them: "HAVE YOU LEVELLED OTHER CLASSES"
    Me: "Well yes, I've maxed a few but I don't even see how that remotely counts as content for my mai-"
    Them: "OKAY SO YOU HAVEN'T DONE EVERYTHING"

    It's a little silly.
    remind me of my friend who quit the game months ago.

    him: "i finish MSQ and i max out my char and there is nothing else for me to do, this game is boring"
    me: "you can try level other class"
    him: "nah i like this class only, no interest in others"
    me: "craft? gather?"
    him: "try once before, dont like it. not really into it anyway"
    me: "side quest? hildibrand?"
    him: "not interest. and that hildibrand quest is stupid"
    me: "POTD? HOH? eureka?"
    him: "i reach until 30 in POTD and it get bored. eureka is meh"
    me: "... "
    him: "seriously this game has no content at all, whats the point of subbing"


    dear god
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