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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteCristo View Post
    If glamour didnt = equal end game there would be plenty of resources. This has happening by design hence why we are here pleading..dont worry you guys are very close on is giving up on this discussion. By the responses i think i have the closure i didnt want... yall actually enjoy glamour more than anything so i dont blame yoshi for milking...much less work to create sparkly items than end game content. It is what it is...
    The gear design team and the raid design team are not the same. Cutting back on glamour would just mean that those in the gear design team would have less to do and more time to do it. And that money that isn't being spent on glamour cannot magically make people who are qualified to design fights appear. Yoshi-P has explained this before when he talks about not lacking money, but Square Enix lacking people who are qualified enough to design hard fights.

    I would rather have a few well-designed fights than a cesspool of mediocre to bad fights, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    The gear design team and the raid design team are not the same. Cutting back on glamour would just mean that those in the gear design team would have less to do and more time to do it. And that money that isn't being spent on glamour cannot magically make people who are qualified to design fights appear. Yoshi-P has explained this before when he talks about not lacking money, but Square Enix lacking people who are qualified enough to design hard fights.

    I would rather have a few well-designed fights than a cesspool of mediocre to bad fights, personally.
    I find this hard to believe from anything labeled as final fantasy...they have been a staple in the rpg genre for years and they choose their biggest cash cow to skimp on the battle design team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    The gear design team and the raid design team are not the same. Cutting back on glamour would just mean that those in the gear design team would have less to do and more time to do it. And that money that isn't being spent on glamour cannot magically make people who are qualified to design fights appear. Yoshi-P has explained this before when he talks about not lacking money, but Square Enix lacking people who are qualified enough to design hard fights.

    I would rather have a few well-designed fights than a cesspool of mediocre to bad fights, personally.
    Personally agree on the fights. Although I do know Yoshi said they're lacking Devs for that type of content, is it possible to fly over or commission people from other countries? They have translators after all and images are worth a lot to convey what you're thinking.

    Quote Originally Posted by MonteCristo View Post
    Their HAS to be budding talent somewhere just waiting on a shot from a brand as prestigious as FF. I can only imagine the possibilities if they decided to allow fresh innovative talent to take a swing at it and probably at a fraction of the salary. Just my 2 gil
    From my experience and observations, you don't normally let the juniors take a shot unless you're either fully certain of their skills or have a senior guiding them loosely with a philosophy (a formula), a feeling or an idea. Once they show you what they have on the table, it's usually the team's job to either accept, reject or add modifications. A concept shouldn't leave that design table if it's a mess.

    Fresh blood for the sake of it can either be good or bad. I believe in this case to be a good thing to add.
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    Last edited by Xieldras; 07-24-2019 at 02:06 AM.

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    Well, this certainly seems like a great money and time investment to appease a massive portion of the playersbase. They really should make one every patch at the very least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post


    Well, this certainly seems like a great money and time investment to appease a massive portion of the playersbase. They really should make one every patch at the very least.
    You dont get the point....this is truly going in circles. This thread has shown me the light in a very bad way...imagine me being loyal to this game since the beta of 1.0 to reach a bitter end like this....smh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post


    Well, this certainly seems like a great money and time investment to appease a massive portion of the playersbase. They really should make one every patch at the very least.
    Where did you get these stats from? I requested some metrics on this earlier, but they were unofficial. If these stats are accurate then I am not sure if I can get behind on getting more resources allocated too this(Ultimate that is), even If I do want more endgame content. But more of something akin too savage and EUREKA, although reworked(EUREKA was a good idea, but poorly executed)

    Also someone earlier made a good point that should be considered.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZellosWilder View Post

    You shouldn't be using that 1% data as to see why to create that content...

    You literally could say the same thing about the gold saucer with triple triad how many players actually manage to collect all 272 cards? cuz its going to be extremely low as you are only focusing on a number who actual managed to clear the hardest content or in the triple triad case get the rarest cards that drop, you could say why even bother adding those types of cards if they are so hard to obtain and so little players ever get them.

    You need to ask how many actually tried it? not clearing something doesn't mean players did not try/enjoy it.

    It's the same for the extreme/savage fights just because alot of players never clear all of it or struggle to doesn't mean alot ain't doing it nor does it mean that they didnt enjoy it. Someone mentioned earlier that 90% of the playerbase are casual and ain't raiders so adding tonnes of new content aiming towards endgame raiders is pointless which is nonsense. If you exclude new players who are still levelling and making their way through the game and only look at players who have reached the max lv theres going to be a huge amount that do extreme and savage fights you only need to look at party finder for the last past 2 weeks and clearly you see theres alot.
    For example Yoshi mentioned that they received great feedback from the Baldesion Arsenal, but how many cleared it? not much I would assume but they are still taking that feedback they received from it for future content.
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    Last edited by Klb600; 07-24-2019 at 03:29 AM.

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    How long we will tolerate LIMITED races, LIMITED classes, LIMITED content and even LIMITED resources, if people can't even complain without crowd of white knights, that will protect even the lack of PVE end game content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    How long we will tolerate LIMITED races, LIMITED classes, LIMITED content and even LIMITED resources, if people can't even complain without crowd of white knights, that will protect even the lack of PVE end game content.
    Since you like to write LIMITED so much you should consider than in the real world there's something called LIMITED money and LIMITED time. Hence LIMITED things exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post
    Since you like to write LIMITED so much you should consider than in the real world there's something called LIMITED money and LIMITED time. Hence LIMITED things exist.
    I don't know, maybe Devs should stop spending that limited time and those limited resources on content everyone hates (Diadem 3.0)?

    *Edit before I get shredded for it. I applaud the Devs trying to make new stuff, but no one likes FATEs and they know it. So why would they keep making that type of content?
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    Last edited by Xieldras; 07-24-2019 at 12:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xieldras View Post
    I don't know, maybe Devs should stop spending that limited time and those limited resources on content everyone hates (Diadem 3.0)?

    *Edit before I get shredded for it. I applaud the Devs trying to make new stuff, but no one likes FATEs and they know it. So why would they keep making that type of content?
    That, is something I can only agreed on.
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