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  1. #11
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    Axis Sunsoar
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    I would disagree - WoW mythics kept a LOT of end game players busy and entertained since they were almost "limitless". Each time they felt a little different with the randomised modifiers and drops.
    We have Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High though i'm not sure if they are the same thing as I haven't tried WoW. We'll likely get another deep dungeon for 5.0 content at some point and a relic weapon system to work on in one of the patches. I feel as a casual they kept me very busy in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    I would disagree - WoW mythics kept a LOT of end game players busy and entertained since they were almost "limitless". Each time they felt a little different with the randomised modifiers and drops.
    Please do not ever consider bringing random stats and titan forge into this game, catch me NOT missing that shit from WoW
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  3. #13
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    Avraym Kent
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnSolaria View Post
    Please do not ever consider bringing random stats and titan forge into this game, catch me NOT missing that shit from WoW
    I was referring more to the random chest drops at the end more than the stats. I won't miss those either.
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    The problem here is comparing this game to other MMOs. FF14 isn't trying to copy the whole "game only really starts at end game" formula. The story is the game. End game is the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    The problem here is comparing this game to other MMOs. FF14 isn't trying to copy the whole "game only really starts at end game" formula. The story is the game. End game is the end.
    I think that's the gripe I have. The game has all the potential in the world to offer a game that starts at end game, but restricts itself to the formula.
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  6. #16
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    The first tab target MMO didn't have this issue. And after 20 years and 28 expansions, it still doesn't. The trick that Everquest used is to do a run of Non-Leveling expansions. The issue with raising the level limit is the dungeons for 71, 73, 75, 77, 79, and the trials are ultimately discarded. Now imagine for a moment if ShB was not a leveling expansion. That means Five dungeons and two trials would have been part of the endgame right off the bat.

    But more than that. Think of the quests we did 71-80. And the zones we did. All that effort, time, and resources could have simply been added as post item level 390 content instead. So this isn't to say on June 28th, we'd immediately be running all 8 dungeons and 3 trials. There'd probably be more than that, and set up in little item level tiers. Story could be still told in a similar way, but the areas would be smaller, and the little 'fetch' quests and the like could be eliminated.

    I personally would love to see SE do an entire expansion dedicated to content rather than leveling.
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  7. #17
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    Diaval Alucard
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    BA was one end game content that I enjoyed doing almost on a daily basis. The place was dangerous and it was fun having 56 people coordinate how to tackle the bosses there. I think they should make more dungeons with that style (not the horrid entry conditions).
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Stuff that keeps me busy:


    • Collecting all mounts
    • Collecting all barding
    • Collecting all minions
    • Collecting all achievements
    • GoldSaucer
    • Leveling all classes
    • Completing the Fishing Log
    • Completing the Sightseeing Log
    • Breeding the perfect racing chocobo
    • Maximizing my companion Chocobo
    • Collecting all costumes
    • Collecting all Titles
    • Clearing POTD solo
    • Clearing HoH solo
    • Finishing all crafting logs
    • Finishing all beast tribes
    • Finishing Eureka


    But I agree, there's not enough stuff to do in this game........
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    We are literally 12 days away from Savage content, moaning about a lack of endgame now seems disingenuous, particularly by Scottzone.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibkee View Post
    We are literally 12 days away from Savage content, moaning about a lack of endgame now seems disingenuous, particularly by Scottzone.
    Who is Scottzone? I've seen more names I've never heard of in reference to xiv videos in the past month than the previous 4 years lol.

    Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't watch you tubers play the games I play, especially mmos.

    Also, what's with all the recent posts of people saying there are too few raids or not enough end game content when they haven't done savage?
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 07-18-2019 at 03:07 PM.

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