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    PeppermintRain's Avatar
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    Seeking SCH and AST 5.0 Guides

    Hello, my fellow healers! I started as a conjurer/WHM and feel I have a good grasp on that job. I've somewhat recently picked up SCH and AST and have them both at 70 right now. However, I feel I could definitely improve my knowledge of these two roles. Right now I think I'm doing a "fine" or satisfactory overall job, but I'd like to practice being the best SCH/AST that I can be. Unfortunately, all of the SCH/AST guides I find are pre-5.0 patch guides and many aspects are now inaccurate or out-of-date.

    Even if it's just in the form of a reply here, can anyone give me a rundown of how SCH/AST "should" be played so as to be most effective in parties/raids? I acknowledge that circumstances will vary how I need to play, but I'm looking for a generalization. If anyone knows of pre-made guides for 5.0, I'd be interested in those as well! Thank you!
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    Player DawnSolaria's Avatar
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    Dawn Solaria
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    There isn't a whole lot to new sch. You get a useless button that heal a tiny amount for 10 fairy guage. 1 extra aetherflow every 90 seconds, and a button to reskin your fairy.

    Everything else is literally the same minus the skills they removed.

    As how to play it, keep excog on tank, use aoe heal before boss use aoe move. Emergency tactic if your other healer dc'ed. Lustrate to dump aetherflow.
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    Last edited by DawnSolaria; 07-18-2019 at 08:54 AM.

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    Rhym's Astrologian 5.0 Guide:

    Don't.
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    Momo did a nice video on 5.0 SCH in dungeons: https://youtu.be/wE1Ay8mmVB8

    I also think his healer optimization video is still relevant in concept.
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    Last edited by Alphras; 07-18-2019 at 08:23 PM.

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    Here is a link to a reddit thread going over the new Scholar rotation hope it helps. https://i.redd.it/4vv5awz8so231.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramziez View Post
    Here is a link to a reddit thread going over the new Scholar rotation hope it helps. https://i.redd.it/4vv5awz8so231.png
    LFMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramziez View Post
    Here is a link to a reddit thread going over the new Scholar rotation hope it helps. https://i.redd.it/4vv5awz8so231.png
    I want an AST version of this for the lulz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyn View Post
    Rhym's Astrologian 5.0 Guide:

    Don't.
    Okay, that made me smile. I haven't yet, TBH. I am afraid. Left my 70 AST to collect dust for now.
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    Ast guide: SE, Ast needs buffs and adjustments badly!!
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    Leiloni Kahu
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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnSolaria View Post
    There isn't a whole lot to new sch. You get a useless button that heal a tiny amount for 10 fairy guage. 1 extra aetherflow every 90 seconds, and a button to reskin your fairy.

    Everything else is literally the same minus the skills they removed.

    As how to play it, keep excog on tank, use aoe heal before boss use aoe move. Emergency tactic if your other healer dc'ed. Lustrate to dump aetherflow.
    I like using Emergency Tactics (with Adlo) and Lustrate as the "big heal" akin to Benefic II or Cure II. Since we really don't have a skill that's directly a spammable large heal, those both work really well when someone is lower HP and you want to get them to a safer place quickly. Shields are great when they're HP is higher and you want to prevent further damage, but Lustrate and Emergency Tactics do a great job as just pure, big ST heals. I suppose you could also use Emergency Tactics with with Succor as well if you need a direct, burst AoE heal.

    If I need to dump Aetherflow, I usually do so with Sacred Soil - damage prevention on everyone (or at the very least the tank and melee) is much better than wasting a heal that isn't needed. But as of this week's patch we have Energy Drain back so OP can use that for an Aetherflow dump, but I'd suggest only dumping when the Aetherflow CD is back up or almost back up. Just in case something unexpected happens and you actually need those CDs.
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    Last edited by Leiloni; 08-02-2019 at 05:27 AM.

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