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    Aelin Wuntwilfwyn
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    Oh, def. MCH and DNC are super fun as they are now. BRD, however, needs some adjustments. As a ranger, it's super fun. The numbers are great. But the whole bard concept is halfhearted now and really needs a buff. Either we need more things we can use to buff the party during songs or our songs need to go back to buffing the party again.

    Quote Originally Posted by RowanLauron View Post
    I'd prefer a ranger job. If we are to have a musical buff support job, turn bard into ranger and bring in songstress.
    I would also be totally okay with that. Splitting archer's jobs into two (like SMN and SCH) and having one job be BRD and the other be ranger would be absolutely choice.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by gnatters View Post
    I would also be totally okay with that. Splitting archer's jobs into two (like SMN and SCH) and having one job be BRD and the other be ranger would be absolutely choice.
    The developers admitted that having ACN split into SCH and SMN was a bad decision, and I believe they said that they have no further plans to have a class split off into two separate jobs again. The best you’d get would be Ranger added as a DPS job in a new expansion. I’d rather BRD not be overhauled for the third time in a row into either Ranger or Songstress. Especially since BRD already has a well established lore in FFXIV (that the current job design ironically goes against).
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    Svana Fyth
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by gnatters View Post
    I would also be totally okay with that. Splitting archer's jobs into two (like SMN and SCH) and having one job be BRD and the other be ranger would be absolutely choice.
    They definitely wouldn't do it that way. They're already trying to separate SMN and SCH completely. I am interested in the idea of Songstress as a healer, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YanderePrincess View Post
    They definitely wouldn't do it that way. They're already trying to separate SMN and SCH completely. I am interested in the idea of Songstress as a healer, though.
    Songstress as a healer would be interesting.
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Let's casually forget that playing a Machinist well is also prohibited on the entire east coast because of lag. If MCH didn't need to constantly double weave or, especially, single weave on a 1.5s GCD, then MCH would truly be perfect.
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    Misty Regions
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Taranok View Post
    Let's casually forget that playing a Machinist well is also prohibited on the entire east coast because of lag. If MCH didn't need to constantly double weave or, especially, single weave on a 1.5s GCD, then MCH would truly be perfect.
    I'm on the east coast and use time Warner and pull 10k on eden prime so I understand your complain but at worst you drop to 9k and that's pretty good.
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mistyregions View Post
    I'm on the east coast and use time Warner and pull 10k on eden prime so I understand your complain but at worst you drop to 9k and that's pretty good.
    Well, not everyone is so fortunate to have a connection that's 100% stable, and the packet loss is maddening on the rotation.
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mistyregions View Post
    I'm on the east coast and use time Warner and pull 10k on eden prime so I understand your complain but at worst you drop to 9k and that's pretty good.
    10% dps drop because of latency is not okay. That's terrible design.

    Thankfully the difference isn't that huge but MCH still feels garbage to play when you get a bad instance and start clipping your double weaves and everything in Hypercharge. The 1.5s gcds were a problem in Stormblood and they're a problem now, even if the job is more fun to play for more people. I still can't understand why they decided to double down on a bad design choices from Stormblood even though they got negative feedback on them. They even designed a charge system that was suggested as a solution for the ping problems, but then decided not to use it for Heat Blast/Wildfire! I'm glad that people are enjoying the job but I would really like to have a word with the dev who decided that this was a good base to build up from... the core problem with latency dependency is unfixed and if they keep this as the new foundation for the job, it's going to plague future job development until they're forced to do yet another rework.

    Please, SE, fix this bad foundation for the future of the job! 1.5s gcds were a mistake, at least in this quantity and with this many ogcd weaves!
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    Genji Jouchi
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 90
    Not Bard, it's so disconnected with its lore it's rediculous.

    Battle Voice and Trabador don't count btw. That's so copped out.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    in my world current Brd would get TA, buff Nin for dmg - there we go dnc & brd only support cls ingame - logical lore wise... but well, I love Brds I started as Brd in AAR like I do in all RPGs which offers Ranger/Brd cls. But I would be sad killing Brd completely for a Ranger cls... cause I liked it for the support part not for the sniping part... also a reason I moved to dnc as well - I miss my grp-utility and therefor lore of my old range cls. : /
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