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    Whelp's Avatar
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    Cadence Evermoore
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    Yeah, it's pretty frustrating as a brown PoC in real life to have such a hard time matching my own skin to the provided swatches. Viera seem to be the only ones that don't have overwhelming and unnatural undertones of grey or orange for even the lightest tans. There have been many times that this simple but horrible obstacle has made me want to give up. It was hard to play a game where just matching my own real flesh color was so difficult, it made me feel like no one making these swatches could be inconvenienced enough to even look at pictures of Black/brown PoC to give our flesh tones the realism the lighter ones have.
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whelp View Post
    Yeah, it's pretty frustrating as a brown PoC in real life to have such a hard time matching my own skin to the provided swatches. Viera seem to be the only ones that don't have overwhelming and unnatural undertones of grey or orange for even the lightest tans. There have been many times that this simple but horrible obstacle has made me want to give up. It was hard to play a game where just matching my own real flesh color was so difficult, it made me feel like no one making these swatches could be inconvenienced enough to even look at pictures of Black/brown PoC to give our flesh tones the realism the lighter ones have.
    It's just the engine and options. What you're describing sounds like a very, very personal problem (inb4 racist, I'm as black as Hershey's chocolate). Something that can be solved with the option of an environment with no shade cluttering the sunlight. Like Coerthas or the Steppes. Very bright, and more what you'll be seeing over trees, trees, trees.
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    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Rael Levynfang
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    The struggle is real.

    What I find myself doing is switching the background in the character creator to Ul'Dah in the day time and turning my character to where he's facing the sunlight. This give a good idea of what his/her skin tone will look like under certain lighting.
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    Cadence Evermoore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    It's just the engine and options. What you're describing sounds like a very, very personal problem (inb4 racist, I'm as black as Hershey's chocolate). Something that can be solved with the option of an environment with no shade cluttering the sunlight. Like Coerthas or the Steppes. Very bright, and more what you'll be seeing over trees, trees, trees.
    Nah, it's actually, like I said, an issue of undertones. Unnatural ones. Like I said. But good tactic calling yourself a racist when you speak on things you clearly don't understand. Nice preemptive dodge there.

    Edit: Like, there are shades that should occur with certain flesh tones in lighting changes. It's OK to not know what an undertone is. Especially if you don't use make-up or create portraits. It's knowledge you just don't have to have. It's not OK to pipe in and blame color swatches on an engine and deflect like you did. But, whatever. I seriously can't believe you looked at this game and noticed how well non humanoid shades of brown adjust to lighting and how PoC skin tones react to lighting and you just said "This is fine, it's the engine." This whole assumption that I would call "racism" on what looks like a clear lack of knowledge in what is and isn't how a flesh tone reacts to light is pretty silly and only serves to make us look petty to others.
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    Last edited by Whelp; 07-18-2019 at 12:17 AM.