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    Huntakinte's Avatar
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    Whispering Forest
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    Arcanist Lv 80

    SCH Art of War feels bad to use

    Seeing the dark cloud appear when you cast Bane and then seeing all your DoTs apply to the enemies was incredibly satisfying. I get that they want to bring all the healers more in line with each other, so if they don't want to give us Bane and our DoTs back then fine, whatever, but the replacement should feel just as satisfying if not more so...

    Except what we got was Art of War which, when compared to its counterparts Gravity and Holy, it looks boring and lackluster and is just no fun to see and no fun to use. I really feel like it needs a visual rework to bring it more in line with either Gravity/Holy, or even Biolysis and Broil III which look amazing.
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    Lilac Blackthorne
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Holy physically hurts my eyes, I really hate looking at it. It's like i'm staring at a flash bang go off.
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Scholar Lv 80
    There's nothing wrong with Art of War, and it's functionally not really any different than spamming Miasma II, which is what you typically did after Bane anyway.

    It's regrettable that it's the only thing we can do, but that's what we have to work with. If anything it may be too subtle, because its graphic really doesn't stand out compared to other abilities, which is kind of disappointing.
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Graphically, it is pretty lackluster.
    Would've preferred they kept Miasma 2's animation for it instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    There's nothing wrong with Art of War, and it's functionally not really any different than spamming Miasma II, which is what you typically did after Bane anyway.

    It's regrettable that it's the only thing we can do, but that's what we have to work with. If anything it may be too subtle, because its graphic really doesn't stand out compared to other abilities, which is kind of disappointing.
    Yea I'm totally fine with the functionality, like i said it's in line with the other healers. I'm purely talking about the visuals here
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    Arturia Crossroads
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    I really do miss our AoE being DoT based, something I always thought gave us a lot freedom for heals as needed and the dot explosion was really satisfying. Tactical ground slap doesn't feel like anything and tbh I'd rather have a cast time then sitting in the middle of a pack of mobs. At least a couple times i didn't notice an AoE in a dense pack.
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    Naychan Le'mew
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntakinte View Post
    SCH Art of War feels bad to use
    Understatement of the year.
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    Why would you spam Miasma II ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naychan View Post
    Why would you spam Miasma II ?
    Because it dealt 100 potency on application and if there were three or more mobs, your DoTs were bane'd, and you didn't need to heal, then what else would you do?
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    Naychan Le'mew
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    Guess that makes sense just never thought of doing it like that.
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    Faire Eravyn
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I feel like Art of War would be alright to use if it didn't have such a boring animation. SCH animations are usually based on geometric shapes being put in front of us (Broil, Physick, More) so just tapping the ground and having a really generic animation come out feels terrible. I also preferred when we had Bane and Miasma since using DoTs for our AOE rotation felt a lot more unique. It was also fun since I could basically just get my DPS out of the way and get back to healing if necessary. The one thing I do like about it is that I can stay targeting the tank, which means its easier to turn back to it and throw out a Lustrate, Excog, or Adlo when necessary.
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