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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lagomorph View Post
    1. Last I checked you could save your lillies and use all of them during downtime. So in 5 seconds of downtime I could easy use all 3 of them to prepare a misery for when the boss comes back. Why do I need to generate a lily specifically during the down time, do you even know how these work?

    2. 10 glare casts in 30 seconds. I guess you're only concerned with hitting a dummy where you don't need to move at all. In cases where I do need to move, I'd sure rather take a 75 potency loss from using a lily as opposed to taking a 300 potency loss from losing a glare. Maybe you'd just rather lose the glare though?

    3. You cannot use 6 indoms in 2 seconds, even if it's cooldown were to be removed.

    4. Yes, how fast you can cast the heal does matter. Where is the math? You can't just say "you literally can't use math" when you don't do any math yourself. There is no math here.

    5. The amount of required healing being low is very relevant here, especially when you're pretending that lillies sole purpose is to heal and that misery only exists to make using them hurt less.

    Do you even play healer? There is so much wrong with your post, that I almost didn't feel like even replying to it. To be honest, I'm not really sure why I did.
    Wow you are actually special. Saving lilies is one of the worst things you can do.

    Are you a time lord? Saving them doesn't change time, merely the window in which you can use them lel. Not using them during the most efficient time is a waste.
    You also can't feed the blood lily if you're capped meaning you need to use misery it unless you want to waste another 30 seconds.

    @2. Reread my post I accounted for that for fairness.

    @3. Aetherflow, use indom 3 times, dissipation, use indom 3 times. Sure it might take 3 seconds, doesn't change anything. Oh I forgot recitation make it 7(2800).

    @4. Can you not read? I literally said that in the post you replied to lel.

    @5. You can't be helped. That's the literal function. Go check fflogs and see if you can find a single log where misery is top dps on a whm and not glare please, be my guest.

    You don't even play this game let alone healer.

    For anyone who reads this in the future. Lilies are specifically designed to reimburse whm dps from healing. If you have a lily you use rapture instead of medica 1 or if you would use a cure 2 you use solace instead. The reason for this is because after three uses you will be able to use a 900 potency attack. While they can also be used to weave certain abilities their main purpose as a free resource is to not punish you for healing. This can't be compared to 3 uses of glare which results in 1200 potency and is done over the period of 9 seconds but it does help with healing and eases your dps loss from healing. You can also use them to optimize your dps during movement when dia is already applied.
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    galbsadi's Avatar
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    Galbsadi Nailo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Aetherflow, use indom 3 times, dissipation, use indom 3 times. Sure it might take 3 seconds, doesn't change anything. Oh I forgot recitation make it 7(2800).
    You also forgot the 30 second cooldown on Indom, making this impossible, probably because you haven't really played Scholar much at all (or are simply trolling). On a related note, you also can't even do this with Lustrate (1 second cooldown there, bare minimum of about 7-8 seconds for even that assuming perfect play). (For Indom, you're looking at a bare minimum of 3 minutes to get off six indoms...and that's literally using it on cooldown.)

    Perhaps you were thinking of Afflatus Rapture for WHM (which only has a 2.5s CD)? (Still couldn't do it in 2-3 seconds 6 times, but they could in theory do it roughly twice as fast as a SCH could if the lily gauge started at full, and add a couple Assize into the mix as well during the same timeframe (which heals the same as Indom while also DPSing and restoring mana).


    That's the literal function. Go check fflogs and see if you can find a single log where misery is top dps on a whm and not glare please, be my guest.
    Not contesting your point here (I agree), but noting that you tend to play WHM [literally 67% of your healer parses are as WHM, not SCH), so there's likely bias in your assumptions that SCH can do things it can't.
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    Last edited by galbsadi; 07-18-2019 at 10:52 PM.