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    Deusteele's Avatar
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    Qarin Lor'rissan
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    Really sad that we are just re-hashing ARR primal fights. They could have at least mixed them into FF VIII fights. Leviathan becomes a NORG multi-target fight. Titan becomes Brothers; Titan+Ga Bu from Post ARR quests. Music remixes are just awesome. Really glad how Soken did them.
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    Losara's Avatar
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    Axis Sunsoar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deusteele View Post
    Really sad that we are just re-hashing ARR primal fights. They could have at least mixed them into FF VIII fights. Leviathan becomes a NORG multi-target fight. Titan becomes Brothers; Titan+Ga Bu from Post ARR quests. Music remixes are just awesome. Really glad how Soken did them.
    If they gave the bosses a different name would it change anything? They are new fights since they have new mechanics and look different to the old bosses referred to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niyuka View Post
    I think the raids are too easy. Every random group managed to get the kill after just 1 or 2 tries. This was nice content for one DAY, but not for 3 months. Too many mechanics are nonlethal and basically fluff damage to entertain healers that dont want to DPS.
    I agree if anything I would have liked all the fights to be slightly harder for normal mode. It would be good to get casual players used to mechanics and help get them ready for EX fights at least. The fights in this tier of raid seemed pretty good though so hopefully future fights are at least this difficult to clear in normal though I would love to see slightly harder fights.
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    Last edited by Losara; 07-17-2019 at 10:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niyuka View Post
    I think the raids are too easy. Every random group managed to get the kill after just 1 or 2 tries. This was nice content for one DAY, but not for 3 months. Too many mechanics are nonlethal and basically fluff damage to entertain healers that dont want to DPS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Losara View Post
    I agree if anything I would have liked all the fights to be slightly harder for normal mode. It would be good to get casual players used to mechanics and help get them ready for EX fights at least. The fights in this tier of raid seemed pretty good though so hopefully future fights are at least this difficult to clear in normal though I would love to see slightly harder fights.
    I think the reason for that is they want to add this in duty roulette, which means it would have to be of a certain difficulty to ensure high enough clear rate for random group without people resorting to use PF.
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Louisoix
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    Lacked story, fighting ARR primals again. Looks to be the remaining primals for the next tier too so it is what it is I guess. Disappointed though. Wonder if Nomura being designer backfired on them and he couldn’t devote as much time needed so they went with reusing what they had after 1&2. Understandable as he has a lot going on atm obviously.

    Music was great though even the empty music was major nostalgia kick. For me the first fight and music are the only positives.
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    Well, there are only 6 elements and 12 fights total, so we should get new bosses for half of them.
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    Juyon Intoner
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    If you really want to complain about getting "reused" primals, we already fought Titan twice before this raid tier in ARR since Phelgaton is called Titan in Japan for the CT series (it was a mini-boss in III or something like that).

    Plus the fact that the bosses really do look different. Chaos looks closer to Sephirot than Eden!Titan does to ARR!Titan.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    loved it , the 1 fight with the eden limit was :O , loved to see levi back , titan not so much lol

    we already fighted nearly all the FFVIII G.F , ifrit , shiva , siren , diabolos, Quezacotl , levi , cerberus, alex , and now eden
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    It was great. I loved the music, and I really enjoyed all fights. Leviathan was a little bit of a let down since it was very similar to Shinryu normal, and I wish they'd gone a bit crazier with the primal reimaginings, or made a bigger deal about us summoning them, but overall it was pretty cool.

    The music was amazing.

    The story is exactly what I expected, but thats not a bad thing, I think its pretty good. Nice to have the raid team be made entirely up of Scions till Gaia joins the squad next time. Can't believe Urianger went back to lying and telling half truths immediately after the MSQ though despite explicitely saying he wouldn't... Again, but thats in character I suppose.

    I'm most excited to see how they'll do Shiva both fight and storywise since its the primal the WoL will have the most memories to draw on... Other than Titan (which we've canonically fought 5 times now if we include extremes). Maybe something like XIIIs Shiva sisters with one representing Shiva and the other representing Ysayle or somethin
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    Last edited by Sclair0; 07-17-2019 at 08:45 AM.

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    Cierre Mhakaracca
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    I think the raids are too easy. Every random group managed to get the kill after just 1 or 2 tries. This was nice content for one DAY, but not for 3 months. Too many mechanics are nonlethal and basically fluff damage to entertain healers that dont want to DPS.
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niyuka View Post
    I think the raids are too easy. Every random group managed to get the kill after just 1 or 2 tries. This was nice content for one DAY, but not for 3 months. Too many mechanics are nonlethal and basically fluff damage to entertain healers that dont want to DPS.

    Why do you think savage and ultimate is a thing? And there will always be complainers willing to complain about anything. E4N is quite hard blind considering we wiped a dozen times across my two clears so you are definitely wrong there.
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