[Spoilers] Eden Feedback Thread

[Sorimachi87]

Disclaimer: These are only my thoughts and opinions over the raid.

Hi eorzeans,

just finished the eden raid series 1-4 and just wanted to spout out some thoughts and my opinion on it.

1. Story

After our MSQ "soul trial" with the light essence, i was thinking okay this can't get worse then that right? Personally i would say there weren't any issues with the story. You had clearer goals this time and you kind of knew what was coming. Except Turn 1 and 2. I've been reading in the lore forums (maybe this should have been put there idk) that this raid series is there, to unlock the avatars creation potential tied to the ancients. Just sad to see it going by offscreen. And our 2nd fight seems to be

Gaia

from the promo pictures about eden. So i really wonder how this is gonna go along. We'll see soon i guess (probably not this year... XD)

2. Music

Nothing else to say there. Wow and what the heck is this and okay i am really getting hyped now! Especially before fighting third and fourth boss. I just love this part of music.

3. Fights

I honestly expected it to be worse. Yeah i died. A lot. But thats simply because not knowing mechanics. If it was due to not being able to keep up with the constant battering of boss casts and dancing around the platforms i would have been more worried tbh. Nonetheless for progress content (non-savage) i'd say its more then enough difficulty.
I know some of you will eat me alive for this. But yeah. I am just a casual like many others here.. :3

4. Conclusion

Thank you dev team for a, in my opinion, very solid start of the eden series. I hope it gets more epic in the next turns :3
Personally i can't wait for the air part as it is my favorite element.
Also the fact that we got, again, plenty multiple choice answers really brightened my mood on the series.

Once again. Thank you. Please, if time and health allows: Keep. Up. This. Awesome. Work!

Disclaimer: These are only my thoughts and opinions over the raid.

[galbsadi]

On fights, I felt the first fight was a little too unforgiving. Not only does Pure Light oneshot anybody hit, but other mechanics make it basically unsafe for that player to resurrect for some time afterwards, coupled with a DPS check that can wipe the entire raid. For savage that's all fine and dandy, but it might be a bit much for normal.

At the same time, I felt the second fight was TOO forgiving. Going in as one of the healers, I made a plethora of mistakes (largely due to not knowing mechanics) that should have probably led to a wipe...and we oneshot it. That could probably be tuned up a tad.

The third and fourth fights...absolutely loved them. Also, that second floor-drop on Leviathan was EVIL.

[Enla]

On fights, I felt the first fight was a little too unforgiving. Not only does Pure Light oneshot anybody hit, but other mechanics make it basically unsafe for that player to resurrect for some time afterwards, coupled with a DPS check that can wipe the entire raid. For savage that's all fine and dandy, but it might be a bit much for normal.

At the same time, I felt the second fight was TOO forgiving. Going in as one of the healers, I made a plethora of mistakes (largely due to not knowing mechanics) that should have probably led to a wipe...and we oneshot it. That could probably be tuned up a tad.

The third and fourth fights...absolutely loved them. Also, that second floor-drop on Leviathan was EVIL.

You can actually take one hit of Pure Light. I did it as a healer when I messed up a mechanic and you have ample time to run behind the boss. I am curious how the Savage version will play though. Kinda hoping it isn't another Alexander (I think it was Midas? It's been way too long) 'we overtuned this way too much' sort of deal.

[galbsadi]

You can actually take one hit of Pure Light. I did it as a healer when I messed up a mechanic and you have ample time to run behind the boss. I am curious how the Savage version will play though. Kinda hoping it isn't another Alexander (I think it was Midas? It's been way too long) 'we overtuned this way too much' sort of deal.

It could've been a gear issue with the group I got matched with, but everyone I saw get hit by Pure Light got oneshot. Maybe you meant the other mechanics at the same time? Those you could definitely take a vuln stack and still survive (I did myself, in fact).

[Adventica6]

They really need to stop adding 1 shot mechanics to raids with uncoordinated groups, it just doesn't work, 1 shot mechanics were fun in 2010 but not anymore, I like to actually play the game.

[Alucard135]

They really need to stop adding 1 shot mechanics to raids with uncoordinated groups, it just doesn't work, 1 shot mechanics were fun in 2010 but not anymore, I like to actually play the game.

One shot mechanics are OK for normal raids if they don't require fast reaction times like in Savage and Ultimate. The majority of those that fail these mechanics are new players. And given that this is the first day, then it's only natural to see people struggle with them. Once people do them 2-3 times, these mechanics will be of almost no threat.

[LunarEmerald]

They really need to stop adding 1 shot mechanics to raids with uncoordinated groups, it just doesn't work, 1 shot mechanics were fun in 2010 but not anymore, I like to actually play the game.

It does feel like as time goes on, the gap between normal and savage is shrinking. These kind of one shot mechanics are what raids were in ARR. I think the difficulty is fine. Just making an observation. The main difference between normal and savage is normal lacks a hard enrage. You can screw up constantly and carry people to the finish and never have to worry about an enrage. It certainly won't be that way for Savage.

[GrizzlyTank]

They really need to stop adding 1 shot mechanics to raids with uncoordinated groups, it just doesn't work, 1 shot mechanics were fun in 2010 but not anymore, I like to actually play the game.

Really? People are having difficulties with these raids... Only one i faced with fails was E2 mainly due to it's deliberately confusing mechanic. And for E3-4 the entire raid can recover as long as one tank and healer is alive.

[Gula]

They really need to stop adding 1 shot mechanics to raids with uncoordinated groups, it just doesn't work, 1 shot mechanics were fun in 2010 but not anymore, I like to actually play the game.

Nah. When the entire party wiped due to Titan's Go Kart mode, we laughed and learned to stay on the other side. I enjoyed learning the mechanics with a blind party and figuring out his grid system. I'll surely remember the fight over just getting by. You are actually playing the game, through trial and error. That in itself is the enjoyment of the earliest game design and within classics. It's what pushes raid progression. For Savage anyways.

I think if you want smooth sailing you should consider another game that lets you make 100 mistakes with no punishment. It should stay in XIV.

[seida]

Overall I enjoyed it, the FFVIII music was amazing.

Felt a bit weird that Eden Prime was the first boss, and also so easy (with that crazy attack, haha).

Titan was super fun, though, so far I'm enjoying it a lot more than Omega.