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Thread: Dodging AOE

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    Cranky_Pantaloons's Avatar
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    Dodging AOE

    Can someone please explain how/why I step out of AOE mechanics in plenty of time and I STILL get hit with it? This happens frequently to me so I can only assume I'm missing something - some kind of timer?
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    There are a few things to keep in mind when it comes to AoE attacks. First, the cast bar is what determines when things get hit, NOT the animation. So if you're still inside the circle when the bar finishes, you're getting hit, even if an attack takes a bit to launch from the boss. Second, there are network issues to consider: What matters is where the SERVER has you placed, not where your computer has you placed. For most users, this delay is barely more than a third of a second, so it only matters if you escaped RIGHT as the attack went off. If your internet connection is horrendously bad however, that can make things more difficult.
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    The server will register slightly before the cast bar finishes, at around 75-80%. The upside to this is that with many (not all) boss mechanics, you can move back immediately after and be safe even if the animation hasn't finished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkYeahDragons View Post
    The server will register slightly before the cast bar finishes, at around 75-80%.
    Hits are counted at the moment the cast bar finishes.

    Any time that it appears otherwise, it's a matter of latency. Whenever your position changes, it takes the data some amount of time to travel from your computer to the servers in California, Japan, or (sorry, I forget where the EU servers are) Germany? If the data doesn't make it to the server before the cast bar finishes, the server will consider you still inside the AoE.

    If you have a golden connection of the gods, you can be out of an AoE just as the cast bar finishes; however, most people will need to be out one to two seconds earlier.


    However,
    Quote Originally Posted by FunkYeahDragons View Post
    The upside to this is that with many (not all) boss mechanics, you can move back immediately after and be safe even if the animation hasn't finished.
    this is quite true. In fact, in some fights, you need to run back into an AoE animation in order to dodge another AoE coming up in the complementary space. In such a case, if you wait for the animation to finish, then run back into it, you might be too late to get to safety.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 07-21-2019 at 02:23 PM.
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    You main is on marlboro (NA Datacenter) while your class name suggests you're a German player. I would asume that your ping isn't the best (there are 3rd party tool to see Ping and PL, which might be revealing when you bother to look them up). I'm in Germany myself and play on EU datacenter, my ping in instances is usually 25-30ms which completely annihilates that issue, in open world zones, ie for S-Rank hunts and special fates, it can go up to 60ms at times, still without any notable difference or problems evading AOEs.
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