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  1. #1
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    animeking's Avatar
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    Anime King
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 100

    DRG Dragon Sight needs buff/ Stardiver needs Graphical buff

    Dnc has an attack buff that increases 5% for 1 min with a 1.5s recast
    While DRG Dragon Sight buffs attack by, 10% on Caster and 5% on partner, for 20s with a 120s recast and limited by distance of 12y during use.

    Dragon Sight needs to last longer to make it worth the use compared to the dnc.

    Stardiver comes out quick and hits like a normal jump that can only be used every 60s if you can get Life of the Dragon up. It needs to have the same impact feel as Dragonfire Dive.
    Damage wise for now it's weak it deals about the same damage as the Dragonfire Dive.
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    Vallerie's Avatar
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    Valeria Ymir
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by animeking View Post
    Dnc has an attack buff that increases 5% for 1 min with a 1.5s recast
    While DRG Dragon Sight buffs attack by, 10% on Caster and 5% on partner, for 20s with a 120s recast and limited by distance of 12y during use.
    The difference is that Dragoon has significantly higher personal DPS, so if you use Dragon Sight during your burst phase along with other cooldowns, you will get a lot more mileage out of it than Dancer gets out of their Standard Finish.

    Stardiver comes out quick and hits like a normal jump that can only be used every 60s if you can get Life of the Dragon up. It needs to have the same impact feel as Dragonfire Dive.
    Damage wise for now it's weak it deals about the same damage as the Dragonfire Dive.
    I disagree on the animation, I find it really awesome /personal taste
    As for damage, no it doesn't have the same damage as Dragonfire Dive, DfD has 380 potency, while Stardiver has 550 *and* you can use it more often than DfD.
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    Last edited by Vallerie; 07-07-2019 at 09:24 AM.

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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Dragon Sight's selling point is the 10% buff it applies to you. Not the meager 5% you offer whomever you tether. There's no reason to buff it, especially since Dragoon is already stupidly strong right now.
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    Sethra Rage
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    you are aware, DRG is like 4k DPS Above Dancer personally right? :P, Dragoons are prolly due a Nerf, not a buff lol
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Because Dancer is a more supportive job than Dragoon and also has less personal dps than him.
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    Siraen El'zeka
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    Cerberus
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    If there's actually a job which does not deserve a buff nowadays, that's the Dragoon.
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by animeking View Post
    Dnc has an attack buff that increases 5% for 1 min with a 1.5s recast
    While DRG Dragon Sight buffs attack by, 10% on Caster and 5% on partner, for 20s with a 120s recast and limited by distance of 12y during use.

    Dragon Sight needs to last longer to make it worth the use compared to the dnc.

    Stardiver comes out quick and hits like a normal jump that can only be used every 60s if you can get Life of the Dragon up. It needs to have the same impact feel as Dragonfire Dive.
    Damage wise for now it's weak it deals about the same damage as the Dragonfire Dive.
    Getting kind of greedy there, don't you think?
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    Ichi Exorz
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Stardiver needs graphical buff... I agree I wish it looked a bit more like RDM LB3.
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  9. #9
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by animeking View Post
    Dnc has an attack buff that increases 5% for 1 min with a 1.5s recast
    While DRG Dragon Sight buffs attack by, 10% on Caster and 5% on partner, for 20s with a 120s recast and limited by distance of 12y during use.

    Dragon Sight needs to last longer to make it worth the use compared to the dnc.
    The issue with your comparison of DRG vs. DNC is that DRG and DNC will never be competing for spots in an optimized group. DRG is a melee, and DNC is a physical ranged; so DRG competes with SAM/MNK/NIN. Not with the physical ranged. DNC competes with BRD/MCH, not with melee.
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  10. #10
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    Sethra Rage
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Tbh the real problem is he’s comparing Two jobs with 4K difference in dps currently.

    You can’t equal a dancers utility with 4K personal dps above dancer.

    Dragoons are no longer a “utility” role we are just ment to have some utility we can use. (IMHO likely still too much for the dps we are doing)

    Dragoon likely needs some nerfs giving them buffs would be ridiculous
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