So why the GNB cartridge combo need 3 different bottoms for its GCD?

[Nedkel]

This is a special case though. The cartridge combo can never be used out of order, and can never be restarted once in progress. Therefore all three steps should be the same button. The same argument can't be made for most other combos.

You could put everything on the same button with macros already duh, you just want them to take the good playstyle and turn it into the hot garbage "because you said so"
No thanks, do you play pvp? 1 button combo feels terrible and is objectively bad idea.

Stop asking for such ridiculous and stupid ideas that you could already recreate by yourselves.
There were few people complaining about GNB soundeffect and see what happened.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Because if it were a 1 button combo, it would cause a massive outrage and people would complain about SE catering to noobs and combos going too simplistic.
Look how negative feedback healers changes caused.

GNB playstyle SHOULD NOT CHANGE, its really good as it is being fastest tank job from them all, if you cant play it, well then dont play it...

I see no complaints about speed of actions or changing playstyle. I'm only seeing complaints about button bloat focused around 3 actions that are only used once roughly every 30s. 3 gcd buttons and 1 ogcd button seems pretty bloated for an action series that could be handled by 2 buttons (1 gcd button and 1 ogcd button).

People are not asking for a single button press to complete the combo. The cpmbo would take the same number of button presses in the same period of time.

Should, because why? No it shouldnt, it would be terrible, the class would feel terrible and slower than it is, someone playing it will have to look into the hotbar to know what part of combo he is in.
The worst idea possible, in pvp it works like total garbage.

Why would it be slower? Macroing the 3 actions into one button currently makes it slower due to how the macro system queues up actions.

And why would you need to look at your hotbars to know what part of the combo you are in? This isn't macroing the actions so that they swap buttons as they are pressed.

[Nedkel]

I see no complaints about speed of actions or changing playstyle. I'm only seeing complaints about button bloat focused around 3 actions that are only used once roughly every 30s. 3 gcd buttons and 1 ogcd button seems pretty bloated for an action series that could be handled by 2 buttons (1 gcd button and 1 ogcd button).

People are not asking for a single button press to complete the combo. The cpmbo would take the same number of button presses in the same period of time.


Why would it be slower? Macroing the 3 actions into one button currently makes it slower due to how the macro system queues up actions.

And why would you need to look at your hotbars to know what part of the combo you are in? This isn't macroing the actions so that they swap buttons as they are pressed.

Button bloat? What button bloat?
People will complain for the smallest things.

Yes i know what you are asking for i am not stupid, and you could already do it, so just do it yourself? Why are you asking to simplificate the job for your own laziness?

Yes it will feel slower, because there would be less buttons to go back and forth on, pressing one button to execute everything is super lame and i cant really help you if you dont get it.
If you press 1 button all the time during the combo it would be much worse to recognise what part of combo you are in, since you are not only executing your rotations but also focused on other things around you. Just play pvp and see how it looks there, it is hard to tell which part of combo you are in because muscle memory does not work in this case and will not tell you anything.

[Ultimatecalibur]

You could put everything on the same button with macros already duh, you just want them to take the good playstyle and turn it into the hot garbage "because you said so"
No thanks, do you play pvp? 1 button combo feels terrible and is objectively bad idea.

Macroing is actually far inferior to what is being requested due to how the action queueing system and macro systems works. You can queue up any non-Macroed action by pressing the assigned button approximately .5 sec before its recast completes. Macros require the action queue to empty before they start running and pressing another macro with interrupt the currently resolving macro.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Button bloat? What button bloat?
People will complain for the smallest things.

Yes i know what you are asking for i am not stupid, and you could already do it, so just do it yourself? Why are you asking to simplificate the job for your own laziness?

Yes it will feel slower, because there would be less buttons to go back and forth on, pressing one button to execute everything is super lame and i cant really help you if you dont get it.
If you press 1 button all the time during the combo it would be much worse to recognise what part of combo you are in, since you are not only executing your rotations but also focused on other things around you. Just play pvp and see how it looks there, it is hard to tell which part of combo you are in because muscle memory does not work in this case and will not tell you anything.

I think you are far exaggerating the engagement of pushing 1(4)-2(4)-3(4) also If you can't count to 3 you are mashing your buttons to much. Your problems with the single buttons combos are more likely due to you pressing them far more than necessary.

Also 1(2)-1(2)-1(2) for the cartridge+continuation combo feels very different than 1-1-1ing a standard combo.

[Typhoria]

Edit: It occurs to me in hindsight that maybe you meant 1(1)-2(2)-3(3). Yes, this would also be better than 1(4)-2(4)-3(4). I think 1(2)-1(2)-1(2) would be best though.

Yea, I meant either 1(1)-2(2)-3(3) or 1(2)-1(2)-1(2). Either 3 separate buttons or 2, the 2nd set would definitely feel better due to the "trigger" effect of continuation.

[Kerrigen]

It's literally designed this way to give you the illusion that you have something exciting to do and a "quasi-DPS rotation" as I've seen some people put it.

I mean, it's fine, it feels good and a lot of players take pride in having many separate buttons to push but I personally would prefer it more condensed as the extra buttons serve no real function. Luckily, there are other tanks I can fall back on for this.