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  1. #201
    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Father Gascoigne
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    "I sat through the story and it was boring," isn't something that most people will likely agree with, but at least it's logically coherent.

    "I skipped the story and it was boring," is just nonsense.
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  2. #202
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    Ven Black
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    I felt that way about Il Mheg, but i didn't skip everything and say "i don't like the story here"
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  3. #203
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch View Post
    Out of the three times you fought him, he beat you exactly once—and he didn't do so by revealing he was only using some arbitrary percentage of his power. He did so by, essentially, punching you in the groin when you weren't expecting it. The second fight was an even match that ended in him losing by technicality, and in the third fight you no longer need assistance to take him down. I guess maybe you realized you should start wearing a cup?

    EDIT: And if you want to be really technical, there was his fight with Thancred, but that'd still leave him at a whole one win.
    The way I remember the first Ran'jit fight going was him saying 'I have your measure now' or something to that effect, then immediately winning the fight the same way Zenos did, not getting a sucker punch in when our backs were turned or something. Implying he was testing us then when he 'had our measure' immediately ended the fight. The only difference I saw compared to Zenos was that our second fight was more evenly matched rather than a second easy win for the bad guy, and then was interrupted by the npcs stunlocking him.
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  4. #204
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordraug View Post
    The hope of Alphinaud (or heck, both Leveilleurs) getting killed is what keeps me going through the MSQ =P
    You and I, both.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    You and I, both.
    I don't mind Alphinaud too much, since he at least underwent drastic character development, suffered for his arrogance and became a better person. Alisae never changed - she's still as arrogant as she was back in the days of ARR. I'm sure I'll roll my eyes when she miraculously finds a way to save both Halric and Ga Bu and has everything wrap up in a neat little bow for her unlike with her brother's trials and tribulations.

    There's also a double standard - characters like Alphinaud and Ramza are criticised for their arrogance but Alisae doesn't get nearly as much backlash. If and when she does end up on the chopping block I hope it's painful! It's a shame she didn't go the way of her friend in Ahm Araeng.
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  6. #206
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    I'll agree that he is a lot less irritating than his sister. She'd be that character I perma-benched if it were a single player FF, while I take Thancred, Y'shtola and Urianger in my party. Maybe sometimes Alphinaud and Ryne.

    As for character deaths, between Zenos and Emet-Selch there were plenty of opportunities... maybe this time Zenos (again) or Elidibus will strike one down. I just hope it's not the guy who's due to disappear when it's all over anyway, i.e. the Exarch... although his present-time version might be a sensible kill, but probably off the table for the effect it'd have on the plot.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 12-04-2019 at 03:38 AM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Monk Lv 100
    Never ever skip anything. Especially the voice-over cut scenes because that's where all the good stuff happens. The story is definitely not in the very least boring at all. But then again some individuals prefer to play the game rather than read the story. To each their own.
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  8. #208
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    Elai Khatahdyn
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    I'm not sure I get the Alisaie loathing I'm hearing.

    I loathed Alphinaud in ARR, he was an arrogant little prick who thought he knew everything, and Elai was in a permanent state of wanting to drop kick him. But she grew fonder of him in HW - he can't be all bad if Estinien likes him - and now he's sweet but hilariously inept sometimes still. Alisaie is just hilarious. I love the way she cuts him down to size. I love her passionate conviction. Her hero-worship is also very entertaining. If I'd just had Alisaie and Yugiri with me in Doma, I'd have enjoyed myself a lot more than having to put up with whiny annoying Lyse!

    But I don't believe anyone has plot armour except the PC, after they killed off my 2 favourite characters in HW. That had real impact for me. So I do get worried that other favourites will come to a horrid end. Also, to be honest, I adored Emet Selch - he was funny and fascinating and compelling - and I really longed for a final twist where he didn't have to die, even thought I knew it wouldn't happen. And that was a real turnaround for me because I couldn't stand him in SB, I was furious about the whole Emperor is an Ascian thing because I felt it was never foreshadowed, and I sulked when I realised he was going to be in ShB
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  9. #209
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elladie View Post
    I'm not sure I get the Alisaie loathing I'm hearing.

    I loathed Alphinaud in ARR, he was an arrogant little prick who thought he knew everything, and Elai was in a permanent state of wanting to drop kick him. But she grew fonder of him in HW - he can't be all bad if Estinien likes him - and now he's sweet but hilariously inept sometimes still. Alisaie is just hilarious. I love the way she cuts him down to size. I love her passionate conviction. Her hero-worship is also very entertaining. If I'd just had Alisaie and Yugiri with me in Doma, I'd have enjoyed myself a lot more than having to put up with whiny annoying Lyse!

    But I don't believe anyone has plot armour except the PC, after they killed off my 2 favourite characters in HW. That had real impact for me. So I do get worried that other favourites will come to a horrid end. Also, to be honest, I adored Emet Selch - he was funny and fascinating and compelling - and I really longed for a final twist where he didn't have to die, even thought I knew it wouldn't happen. And that was a real turnaround for me because I couldn't stand him in SB, I was furious about the whole Emperor is an Ascian thing because I felt it was never foreshadowed, and I sulked when I realised he was going to be in ShB
    I can't say I dislike Alisaie, but out of them all she is far from my favorite. She just seems...forced I guess at times. I get it Alisaie, you've got mad RDM skills and you are just so totally awesome and stuff. Good for you! (Still don't care!) And sure, we had an adventure together with the forgettable Lyse, but I still don't feel like she's my character's friend. She gets shoehorned into the action a lot and acts like we're best pals. I'm guessing we're supposed to be, but I just don't personally feel it. Then again, I feel like I would get along with Gaius just fine so...there's that. He's less about talk and more about action now. It's probably just a matter of preference I guess. Up until Shadowbringers I didn't really like many, if any, of the Scions. But now? I don't detest any of them. In fact, I actually like them all now...Alisaie is just at the bottom of the list because of the reasons I've stated. She could be a better character imo if she took things down a notch instead of running around cranking things up to 11 everywhere she went. Think that's why I like Y'shtola. She's got a relatively calm demeanor, and she doesn't need to remind everyone of how awesome she is. She just does her thing and continues about her business.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 12-04-2019 at 11:28 AM.

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    Fynlar Eira
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    The hope of Alphinaud (or heck, both Leveilleurs) getting killed is what keeps me going through the MSQ =P
    Wouldn't count on it; they both have plot armor thanks to Binding Coil.
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