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    [Spoilers] I’m irrevocably Unimpressed

    Someone please help me understand why the bad guys are never allowed to win?

    Something seemed awfully wrong about the way Emet-Selch was taken out. By all accounts, he should have won.

    I mean, are Ascians even evil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mario710 View Post
    Someone please help me understand why the bad guys are never allowed to win?

    Something seemed awfully wrong about the way Emet-Selch was taken out. By all accounts, he should have won.

    I mean, are Ascians even evil?
    Thats what this expansion is all about.
    Its meant to question what we are truly doing vs what they are doing.
    The ascians have lived for hundreds of years working towards the rejoining.
    We as the WoL have learned that we are part of their forgotten world when our soul was split.

    So i feel liek there will be more exploration behind their story later on in the MSQ but thats just my opinion
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    So you want your character to be deleted? Cause that's what'll happen if they win. You'll get deleted. So no game for you. So no... besides... why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertcoins View Post
    So you want your character to be deleted? Cause that's what'll happen if they win. You'll get deleted. So no game for you. So no... besides... why?
    Think the OP means something along the lines of we lose but aren't killed. We retreat, go into hiding or something and try to regroup. Avengers: Infinity War style. But when you think about it, Shadowbringers did an excellent job of making us question who really are the good guys, and it's looking more and more that WE may actually be the bad guys. So, in that regard, the bad guys actually did win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Think the OP means something along the lines of we lose but aren't killed. We retreat, go into hiding or something and try to regroup. Avengers: Infinity War style. But when you think about it, Shadowbringers did an excellent job of making us question who really are the good guys, and it's looking more and more that WE may actually be the bad guys. So, in that regard, the bad guys actually did win.
    They (we?) did that in our final fight with "Zenos" and to say it was poorly received would be an understatement.
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    Last edited by Allegor; 07-12-2019 at 09:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Think the OP means something along the lines of we lose but aren't killed. We retreat, go into hiding or something and try to regroup. Avengers: Infinity War style. But when you think about it, Shadowbringers did an excellent job of making us question who really are the good guys, and it's looking more and more that WE may actually be the bad guys. So, in that regard, the bad guys actually did win.
    So what happened at the end of ARR? And like how Ilberd won at the end of HW, kicking off the events of SB? Or how Elibidus Zenos was about to beat us just before ShB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertcoins View Post
    So you want your character to be deleted? Cause that's what'll happen if they win. You'll get deleted. So no game for you. So no... besides... why?
    Why do I have to think of Yoko Taro now? lolz
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    Life is a journey, not a destination. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zazay View Post
    Why do I have to think of Yoko Taro now? lolz
    Because like it or not, he's coming.

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    Depends on whether or not you consider septuple genocide to be evil or not.

    I personally do.
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    Also, Emet lost the moment he decided to go on and on about how he's 'superior' to everyone else. All his years (and the not so substantial fact that we've already wasted ascians before him) should have clued him in that fighting a cornered beast is a VERY bad idea.
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