Square Enix, please think about both Casual AND Hardcore crafters..

[MilkAndChoco]

Why would you, Then you wouldn't have anything to complain about because lets be real. You don't want it to be harder, you want to brag about how you made it easy because you are all alpha crafter and stuff. I'm done with you now.

you people here on thread are such baby...

*cookies breathes*

butt hurt peoples: ohh no cookies is the worst evil elitistt player ever OwO

you people want hurt cookies every chance there is for you to have. stop it. you people need to grow up and stop bully one girl over something that is foolish. i think what problem is is that cookies trigger you all so you all want to witch hunt and be rude to her. hypocrites you all are here.

second. you are clown for telling person to nerf one self. only SQUARE ENIX can do. lol it also make me laugh. cookies was not bragging here. she just make statement that it too easy. you get trigger and say you done. grow up and stop be clown! you english people are most sensitive people on platform here. very weird people you are here

[NanaWiloh]

That's actually impossible. A max IQ 2000 control Great strides Excellent Brygots is almost 30000 quality with no Inno/Ingen and something like 70k with. The collectibles have a 40k bar. I've done a lot of manual crafting and know the output of Brygots very well.

Don't make things up to prove your point.

She is not making stuff up I have done sim runs with stats that low there is little margin for error. A measly 4 pts of cp could screw her over with control that low and I know this cause I got screwed by 8pts CP and my control is higher then hers.

[CookiesNCreams]

Why would you, Then you wouldn't have anything to complain about because lets be real. You don't want it to be harder, you want to brag about how you made it easy because you are all alpha crafter and stuff. I'm done with you now.

I.... wasn’t bragging, though? Instead of jumping to conclusions, you should look at the thread.....what is the point of this entire thread? I’ve just crafted for a long time, hardly anything is an issue for me. Whether it’s the new ability overhaul or Gil. Like I said, I’m looking for a challenge that isn’t an arbitrary rule made up by a forum poster that wants to jump on the “cookies is bad” band wagon.

I’m open for discussion. Not for a childish blurt out declaring I’m doing this for bragging rights....uh, no. If you can’t handle the heat, please kindly go to another thread. I believe if people are this upset by what I’ve said so far, that is an issue on their part and their personal inferiority complex issues. That has nothing to do with me, at all as a person. If I see more negativity, I ignore/block.

Makes life on the forums a “no biggie” thing.

[Mitsubashi]

That's actually impossible. A max IQ 2000 control Great strides Excellent Brygots is almost 30000 quality with no Inno/Ingen and something like 70k with. The collectibles have a 40k bar. I've done a lot of manual crafting and know the output of Brygots very well.

Don't make things up to prove your point.

I have 2423 Control. 11 stacks of IQ with Inno and Ingen is giving me 16k quality on the lvl 80 Ishgard restoration recipes so good would be 1.5 times that ??? Excellent is topping out at 60k

It's not difficult and it's easily macroable with NQ materials though, yes.

Here's what I'm using :


/ac "Reflect" <wait.3>
/ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
/ac "Waste Not" <wait.2>
/ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
/echo Macro #1 complete <se.1>


/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
/echo Macro #2 complete <se.14>

I'm at 2448/2423/607 using HQ BB. I end with 33 CP spare.


edit : also there is plenty of slack in those numbers. 35000/40000 gets the full 58 scrips and 24000/40000 gets 43. The above macros finish with spare CP so you could close out with a couple of Careful Synthesis instead of the 1 Basic Synthesis, with Ingenuity up for both of them, allowing for lower Craftsmanship.

[Ryoutoshi]

This is the ignorance I was talking about that borders on willfully obtuse. Don't mind disagreement but don't taint good logic with just putting words in someone's mouth. Where in that did I say players choose randomly?

I very clearly detailed where RNG is in the example and the player randomly choosing their own actions through pure RNG was not even implied.

I clearly explained that while a player has situational awareness to use for actions, they can at any point go against the grain for advantage or mix-up. There is the RNG that the opposing side deals with.

If you can't grasp this then forget it. I've read your other posts and this level of understanding matches up. Just wanted to make sure no one else fell for it.

[Ryoutoshi]

^ Meant to quote Callinon. On mobile.

[Ryaz]

Honestly, I've found with the new Ishgard items that it really depends on if you get a poor proc on Byregot's or not. It definitely happens quite a bit. I've got several rotations that will get me 100% with NQ mats, but if I get a poor quality proc for Byregot's it ruins the whole thing.

[CookiesNCreams]

This is the ignorance I was talking about that borders on willfully obtuse. Don't mind disagreement but don't taint good logic with just putting words in someone's mouth. Where in that did I say players choose randomly?

I very clearly detailed where RNG is in the example and the player randomly choosing their own actions through pure RNG was not even implied.

I clearly explained that while a player has situational awareness to use for actions, they can at any point go against the grain for advantage or mix-up. There is the RNG that the opposing side deals with.

If you can't grasp this then forget it. I've read your other posts and this level of understanding matches up. Just wanted to make sure no one else fell for it.

Don’t bother. Some people just have a one track mind, no matter what you try to say to them.

Honestly, I've found with the new Ishgard items that it really depends on if you get a poor proc on Byregot's or not. It definitely happens quite a bit. I've got several rotations that will get me 100% with NQ mats, but if I get a poor quality proc for Byregot's it ruins the whole thing.

That’s interesting. Still though, I was hoping for this to be harder even with max melds. I know the overhaul isn’t completely finished until 5.2, but this really makes me scared for 5.2.

[Mitsubashi]

Honestly, I've found with the new Ishgard items that it really depends on if you get a poor proc on Byregot's or not. It definitely happens quite a bit. I've got several rotations that will get me 100% with NQ mats, but if I get a poor quality proc for Byregot's it ruins the whole thing.

If anyone is unaware you can instantly stop any macro by running another macro. I keep one with just one line : /echo MACRO STOPPED . Pressing this instantly stops your macro if, for example, you proc a poor on BB.

[Kabooa]

I very clearly detailed where RNG is in the example and the player randomly choosing their own actions through pure RNG was not even implied.

Do you not understand what RNG means?

You used a bad example, and in your own post refute your argument.