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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Do you? You're making the same claim.

    Honestly.. real talk.. something I see you doing A LOT in all these threads where you're going on about this is speaking for a group of people.

    Don't do that.

    You have every right to speak for yourself and what you want. You have every right to present your own opinions and your own wishes. You do not have the right to speak for a group that hasn't elected you to do that, and I recall no election among The Hardcore™ naming you as leader.

    This is a habit people tend to have when speaking on message boards like this. You want to sound like you have the backing of many people because it makes your argument sound better. This is known as argumentum ad populum and is a well-known logical fallacy. The solution boils down to this: speak for yourself, and only yourself unless you've actually been elected to speak for other people.
    Um, no, I won’t stop doing it. It’s because it’s safe to say my opinion is shared among other hardcore players in this game. Do I really need to show proof? Look at the videos (and comments) I posted in that YouTube link on the previous page. Also, since you really want to go there, about posts, your posts mostly seem to want to argue/debate with me over a topic we simply cannot and will not agree on. So agreeing to disagree is the best course of action. I have known many of hardcore crafters before 4.0 happened, and after 4.0, they somehow vanished?

    Even have emails from these friends saying they quit because the crafting got too child-friendly and became a joke, so they played PSO2 or BDO. It’s really sad to see how a lot of these players do not post on the forums due to a cancelled subscription, or simply because they believe their voice will be instantly shut down by people such as yourself. That’s why I’m here. Doesn’t matter what you throw at me, I’m still going to bring this topic up until it’s resolved by Square somehow. Be it Ishgard or endgame recipes. Doesn’t matter, needs to be resolved. I know threads and posts like these anger folks like you I’m guessing, but, sorry, we need some content too.

    So you can throw that “Don’t do that.” somewhere else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Talam View Post
    boy, speaking as someone who has a computing science degree and has done some coding, what a pain in the ass to code
    Oh cool. I’ve only done modest amounts of reverse engineering, such as PPC/Assembly and some JSON. No degree though, need more extra money to attend college again. :P Anyways, nobody has statistical data on subscriptions in FFXIV from 2016 - Now, unless you’re trying to tell me you somehow do. :P My point is, it’s disingenuous and quite pretentious to imply less than 1% of crafters quit because of crafting’s nerfs. It’s most definitely higher than that.

    It’s simply because hardcore players are not very vocal on the forums whereas casual players are extremely vocal and post on a consistent basis. My mission is to do the same, and get this issue worked out. That’s all.
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    Last edited by CookiesNCreams; 11-05-2019 at 08:23 AM.