Square Enix, please think about both Casual AND Hardcore crafters..

[CookiesNCreams]

SE, come on, guys. Ever since Stormblood began, you added Prudent Touch. Which has made crafting far too easy. What it does, is removes 2.0 - 3.5’s RNG completely. That’s great, it means crafting isn’t so annoying anymore. Here’s the problem with that, though. Ever since that RNG problem has been fixed, players who enjoy a challenge like myself, are basically denied that challenge.

Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe there are crafters out there that actually enjoyed 2.0 - 3.5’s RNG? Because, it helps us become better crafters, and it feels incredibly rewarding to know that you HQ’d a craft that tries to flip you off with RNG. It’s SO rewarding. Not only that, but it raises the value of your time spent per craft. Back then, crafts took 2 minutes per rotation. (makers mark and hasty touch)

Now? 40 seconds - 1 minute. In a single macro. A. Single. Macro. I kid you not. One. Macro. Square Enix, do you not see the problem with this? What were you thinking? I understand you need to cater to casual players that don’t take crafting very seriously, but it’s very insulting to completely flip off your hardcore players, and refuse to give us challenging recipes with great rewards. Such as high stat gear or tools. We just want a challenge, and we want to be rewarded for that challenge.

And for people who say “B-but Ishgard Restoration will be challenging”...no, it won’t. They tend to hype up things relating to crafting, but when it actually drops, it’s underwhelming. They have a pretty good track record in regards to that, lol.

Stormblood - Prudent Touch
ShadowBringers - Preparatory Touch, Prudent Touch, Delicate Synthesis.

Square Enix, how much easier do you plan on making crafting? How much longer do you plan on ignoring your hardcore players? Eventually, you’ll reach a point where it’s literally impossible to make this any easier.

We aren’t children, you know. We can figure mechanics out.

[CookiesNCreams]

Crafters and hardcore crafters on almost every server are getting kind of fed up with this easy crafting and neglecting hardcore players. Even a well known crafter on Cerberus made a YouTube video addressing it (though, indirectly lol):

https://youtu.be/F-AFJH2RhYw

What needs to be done: Keep in the casual mechanics. But give hardcore players that enjoy challenges, difficult recipes to complete. Reward us for it. Make the rewards worth everyone’s time. Don’t reward us with useless things such as furniture, or glam. Actual gear pieces or tool pieces with high stats would be great. Give us a crafting savage of some sort. Let casual players do things, and let us do things.

We pay for your game too. So think about this thread when developing crafting mechanics for 6.0

[ErryK]

hardcore crafters

Those exist?

[CookiesNCreams]

Those exist?

I mean, I craft hundreds of end game gear for all 8 servers on my data Center, have alts at all lvl80 crafts, earn roughly 800M Gil a month, (due to how absurdly easy crafting is now, more like 500 or 600M) and I do it all because it’s fun. I would classify that as “hardcore.”

[Flashgordon1975]

I mean, I craft hundreds of end game gear for all 8 servers on my data Center, have alts at all lvl80 crafts, earn roughly 800M Gil a month, (due to how absurdly easy crafting is now, more like 500 or 600M) and I do it all because it’s fun. I would classify that as “hardcore.”

This does not even sound remotely like fun. Camping a retainer bell all day...

[DrWho2010]

I mean, I craft hundreds of end game gear for all 8 servers on my data Center, have alts at all lvl80 crafts, earn roughly 800M Gil a month, (due to how absurdly easy crafting is now, more like 500 or 600M) and I do it all because it’s fun. I would classify that as “hardcore.”

to each their own but aiya...... also i don't think we would ever get "superior tools". everything has to be kept accessible. this isn't raiding.

[LalafellDown]

I like easy crafting.

[CookiesNCreams]

I like easy crafting.

Good, that’s the point of this thread. They should cater to both casual people and hardcore people. Not prioritize one over the other. That is a horrible mindset to have.

[Legion88]

First: RNG =/= challenge
Second: I would like that SE would make more "hardcore" recipes but in their own niche.
Gear and basic raid support shouldn't be considered hardcore, this should always be easy to made and supply, but everything else, furniture, bardings, orchestrion rolls, glamoures, this should be hardcore to craft with really high standards to just complete.

[CookiesNCreams]

First: RNG =/= challenge
Second: I would like that SE would make more "hardcore" recipes but in their own niche.
Gear and basic raid support shouldn't be considered hardcore, this should always be easy to made and supply, but everything else, furniture, bardings, orchestrion rolls, glamoures, this should be hardcore to craft with really high standards to just complete.

They don’t have to introduce RNG again. Just make certain crafting content very difficult. Like, crafting new gear. Make it extremely difficult to make. Prudent Touch doesn’t need to go anywhere. Prudent Touch won’t save you if you are up against an insane progress and quality requirement.