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    Brandedblade's Avatar
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    Gunther Frey
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    another SCH cry about his OP class was nerfed, what a suprise ...
    want more dps ?? ------> summoner class this way and you get back are your missing skills

    you are healer want dps go play dps simple as breathe

    you can't have op healing and op dmg any more sry

    edit : and yes I played SCH too in sb and I know it was too much as class
    Your sentiment is valued. However what you said is the biggest trigger on this forum after "Healers shouldn't dps" so I'm gonna have to pray for your soul.
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    Typhoria Nightwish
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    Faerie
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    another SCH cry about his OP class was nerfed, what a suprise ...
    want more dps ?? ------> summoner class this way and you get back are your missing skills

    you are healer want dps go play dps simple as breathe

    you can't have op healing and op dmg any more sry

    edit : and yes I played SCH too in sb and I know it was too much as class
    Did you even read the OP? There was little to no reference about damage.
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    another SCH cry about his OP class was nerfed, what a suprise ...
    want more dps ?? ------> summoner class this way and you get back are your missing skills

    you are healer want dps go play dps simple as breathe

    you can't have op healing and op dmg any more sry

    edit : and yes I played SCH too in sb and I know it was too much as class
    Nobody is crying about damage numbers or nerfs, at least most people aren't. (Assuming you're not just a troll looking to bait) most people who are complaining are complaining about the fact that scholar doesn't have anything to do. They could make scholar weak as hell, but if it was fun and engaging, thered be a lot less complaining. Besides, scholar is as strong as it has always been, so being OP was clearly not the problem.

    Nobody cares about higher numbers, they just want a more interactive class. Interactive and engaging =/= OP
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    Silke Rin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    yes we do need some skills removed, but, not eaxactly like what op said.

    repose exists because eureka exists.

    emergency tactics exists because living dead exists.

    now, for what really needs to be removed.... dissipation... now that the kit half revolves around the fairy, this is a detriment to the job. i say get rid of it and replace it with a aether stack dump that does X.
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    Last edited by Silkerin; 07-18-2019 at 03:59 PM.

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    Typhoria Nightwish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkerin View Post
    now, for what really needs to be removed.... dissipation... now that the kit half revolves around the fairy, this is a detriment to the job. i say get rid of it and replace it with a aether stack dump that does
    X.
    Could always have it where the fairy is silenced for 30s. That way it would just disable Embrace and you could still unsummon it for Seraph.
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkerin View Post
    yes we do need some skills removed, but, not eaxactly like what op said.

    repose exists because eureka exists.

    emergency tactics exists because living dead exists.

    now, for what really needs to be removed.... dissipation... now that the kit half revolves around the fairy, this is a detriment to the job. i say get rid of it and replace it with a aether stack dump that does
    X.
    I find that, ironically, they made dissipation really useful and useless at the same time. If we still had ED then it'd be fantastic because of the change to automatically bring fairy back, so in moments where fairy healing wasn't needed you get more energy drains without having to go through the trouble of summoning your fairy back later, but by removing energy drain they got rid of the most useful aspect of dissipation
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    Z'izari Moonshade
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 75
    So removing 15 skills and changing how our class worked drastically, not once but twice, wasnt enough for you? If anything we need Ruin III and Ruin IV. We lost Miasma and Miasma II. Selene, and all of her abilities. You want to remove Emergency Tactics, when it has actual use (Sure its situational) when Dissipation is the most worthless spell in our entire kit. Its underwhelming and entirely pointless.

    I logged in JUST to disagree with you on this. Seriously, SCH has had its entire being ripped from it. We are basically WHM II now and our DPS kit includes pressing two buttons.

    Im all for complexity but removing anything more from SCH at this point is absolutely silly and completely opposite from what needs to be done to SCH. If anything, we need Energy Drain and several abilities BACK!
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    Impurrrsive's Avatar
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    Coleo Softpaw
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    Masamune
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Now back to op

    Quote Originally Posted by Baelas View Post
    to free up space on our already packed hotkey bars.

    "Summon Seraph"/"Consolation" pair. There are no circumstances where you could cast Consolation without also summoning Seraph, so there would be no loss if the first press of a new merged button summoned it, and the two subsequent presses used Consolation. No loss, all gain!
    I agree, the button can be like AST draw/play button in 4.0
    Others is a no no

    "Lucid dream" it have some situation.

    "Repose" just ignore it if u dun want it, its not integral part of SCH

    "Ruin Il" no... Pls no, i still like this skill since its instant cast, i can dps while running around

    "Emergency Tactics" its a good idea but no, if its implement ed they will nerf us more... So... Shh...
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    A'syree Sato
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    another SCH cry about his OP class was nerfed, what a suprise ...
    want more dps ?? ------> summoner class this way and you get back are your missing skills

    you are healer want dps go play dps simple as breathe

    you can't have op healing and op dmg any more sry

    edit : and yes I played SCH too in sb and I know it was too much as class
    Oh boy here we go with another “you’re a healer, not a DPS” thing again.

    Also what was too much? The amount of skills? I’d personally disagree on that.
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