Removing unnecessary buttons (SCH)

[Alphras]

I think square would be capable to replace summon seraph with consolation and still let the skill have two uses ...

[Deceptus]

Dissipation. It's been clunky and is completely counter to our core job identity. For years now.

[Hysterior]

Dissipation. It's been clunky and is completely counter to our core job identity. For years now.

With the new "no aetherflow out of combat" I actually use dissipation a lot at the end of a pull for full stack before a new one.
Never used it before but I sure do now, especially since the fairy is automatically back. Actually became a great skill IMO.

[Dynia]

another SCH cry about his OP class was nerfed, what a suprise ...
want more dps ?? ------> summoner class this way and you get back are your missing skills

you are healer want dps go play dps simple as breathe

you can't have op healing and op dmg any more sry

edit : and yes I played SCH too in sb and I know it was too much as class

[Alphras]

another SCH cry about his OP class was nerfed, what a suprise ...
want more dps ?? ------> summoner class this way and you get back are your missing skills

you are healer want dps go play dps simple as breathe

you can't have op healing and op dmg any more sry

edit : and yes I played SCH too in sb and I know it was too much as class

I think you are in the wrong thread.

[Takahiro]

another SCH cry about his OP class was nerfed, what a suprise ...
want more dps ?? ------> summoner class this way and you get back are your missing skills

you are healer want dps go play dps simple as breathe

you can't have op healing and op dmg any more sry

edit : and yes I played SCH too in sb and I know it was too much as class

We never had OP DMG, we had better than WHM dmg, Now WHM has been buffed that a pro WHM can out DPS a freakin tank and they can sure as heck out DPS a mediocre RDM or DNC. There is BARELY any difference in DPS from a pro SCH to a very bad SCH now. Why? Because SCH has 2 dps moves. Broil and Ruin II. SMN had massive changes as well. SMN doesnt even have Aetherflow anymore, and they have less complexity and barely any support that they use to have. SMN is basically just a BLM lite now. So we should all just go play WHM and BLM right?

SB SCH was also, frankly, terrible in comparison to a 2.0 SCH

I want to seriously slap the next person who says "Healers should only heal." SCH was never and NEVER WILL BE a pure healer. We do not even heal. Any scholar worth their salt knows that SCH relies entirely on its shields, as our healing potency has never been as high as a WHM. If we look at data right now a WHM is exactly what you think we want. OP Healing and OP DPS. I use to be able to do as much dps as a PLD and thats all I ever asked for. I never wanted to do as much as a Bard even. JUST a PLD. All tanks and healers should be leveled out on DPS. Abit with a tiny skew towards Gunbreakers and Warriors (as a Warrior was suppose to be a DPS Tank)

Please move aside with your "Healers should only heal" logic, and go back to playing WoW.

[galbsadi]

Please move aside with your "Healers should only heal" logic, and go back to playing WoW.

Honestly, that doesn't even apply in WoW either. At the end of the day, a dead mob is a mob that's not damaging party members, so healers should ALWAYS DPS once they are safely able to do so. Now, will I hold it against another healer if they don't? No, because they might not have the same experience I do and/or they might not be as comfortable with HP bars at certain levels as I can be. However, will I DPS whenever I can? Absolutely. Doesn't matter if I have a nice fun rotation or the two buttons we do now...it still helps things go faster, and stuff die faster...and dead stuff isn't draining my tank's HP bar.

[Dynia]

We never had OP DMG, we had better than WHM dmg, Now WHM has been buffed that a pro WHM can out DPS a freakin tank and they can sure as heck out DPS a mediocre RDM or DNC. There is BARELY any difference in DPS from a pro SCH to a very bad SCH now. Why? Because SCH has 2 dps moves. Broil and Ruin II. SMN had massive changes as well. SMN doesnt even have Aetherflow anymore, and they have less complexity and barely any support that they use to have. SMN is basically just a BLM lite now. So we should all just go play WHM and BLM right?

SB SCH was also, frankly, terrible in comparison to a 2.0 SCH

I want to seriously slap the next person who says "Healers should only heal." SCH was never and NEVER WILL BE a pure healer. We do not even heal. Any scholar worth their salt knows that SCH relies entirely on its shields, as our healing potency has never been as high as a WHM. If we look at data right now a WHM is exactly what you think we want. OP Healing and OP DPS. I use to be able to do as much dps as a PLD and thats all I ever asked for. I never wanted to do as much as a Bard even. JUST a PLD. All tanks and healers should be leveled out on DPS. Abit with a tiny skew towards Gunbreakers and Warriors (as a Warrior was suppose to be a DPS Tank)

Please move aside with your "Healers should only heal" logic, and go back to playing WoW.

and who ever said tank should have better dmg then healer ? WHM should have even bigger damage then now cause have nothing more then healing in terms in utility, your utility as SCH is OP shields and you still want more damage ?! you are too greedy and don't even know to how balance should works

dude if you not playing healer for healing and for keep your party alive as main priority and want to dps more then healing you don't deserve to play healer, im happy that SE made this changes that will keep some ppls with your mentality away from healing class

[Hatstand]

and who ever said tank should have better dmg then healer ? WHM should have even bigger damage then now cause have nothing more then healing in terms in utility, your utility as SCH is OP shields and you still want more damage ?! you are too greedy and don't even know to how balance should works

dude if you not playing healer for healing and for keep your party alive as main priority and want to dps more then healing you don't deserve to play healer, im happy that SE made this changes that will keep some ppls with your mentality away from healing class

Seriously, are you a troll?

A) As was said above, SCH has far weaker heals than WHM (I've played both and WHM can recover people's HP so much faster). Our shields aren't our utility. They're the main component of our healing kit.

B) As was also said above, most SCHs want more complex dps, not more effective dps. I'm happy for WHMs to continue to have the biggest numbers. I just want more than 4 dps buttons across my entire kit

C) We don't deserve to play healers... okay. Wow.

[Likethewind]

Please move aside with your "Healers should only heal" logic, and go back to playing WoW.

healers dps in WoW tho...