I still really think PvP could benefit a lot from having some sort of Training instance. Something low stress, where nobody's worried about not getting their rewards, fill it up with NPCs or all those afk bots or whatever. A more chill environment to actually learn the maps, learn job synergy, tactics, etc. I guess probably would entail more dev resources than they probably think would benefit; no rewards or anything, maybe it wouldn't get used much.

But, personally, biggest hurdle for me even dipping a toe into PvP is having to go in blind. On some level, I do recognize that it's a somewhat simplified system, I can pick up on my own job mechanics in the Den. But, throwing other players in the mix, whose success/enjoyment of a match may depend in some part on my understanding of what's going on. I'd just as soon not get tossed into that mess.

Although, I guess, strictly speaking, without chat, can't be bothered by anyone having a bad time...