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    Housing crisis is incentivizing RMT

    Sorry. In hopes that SE gets the clue, here I am, piling on just like everyone else should.

    I realize there's server strain but this is ridiculous. The way this system is at the moment, the only viable way to get a house anymore is to participate in under-the-table negotiations on Reddit or somewhere else, either for money or ingame gil, usually gigantic portions, likely RMT too since nothing else in the game demans the prices that flipped houses go for. A cursory glance at Reddit shows you how many people are getting actual, real money off of flipping houses and selling relocations and FCs.

    Square, this is your doing. Make no mistake.

    As it stands, a not insignificant portion of my monthly subscription is dedicated to a system used by players who are not me, many of which are RMT buyers. The depressingly ironic truth is that I probably spend MORE time in housing districts clicking billboards for literally days than the people who actually have houses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RikuShieran View Post
    the only viable way to get a house anymore is to participate in under-the-table negotiations
    Here's the Housing Census thread, now you can move to a server and buy a home! All perfectly viable and above board.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nsus%21/page31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Here's the Housing Census thread, now you can move to a server and buy a home! All perfectly viable and above board.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nsus%21/page31
    I don't want to move to another server. I appreciate the help but that's ridiculous. I'm not going to i) lose access to every social circle here; ii) delete my FC; iii) ask over 30 people to pay money just so we can engage in a piece of content we literally already pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RikuShieran View Post
    I don't want to move to another server. I appreciate the help but that's ridiculous. I'm not going to i) lose access to every social circle here; ii) delete my FC; iii) ask over 30 people to pay money just so we can engage in a piece of content we literally already pay for.
    Well, you have a viable way to get a house now, you just choose not to take it. If you resort to RMT, that's on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Well, you have a viable way to get a house now, you just choose not to take it. If you resort to RMT, that's on you.
    "Pay real money to relocate an entire FC as well as delete everything you have on your server" is not, in any stretch of the imagination, "viable", Edax. I think you know this, so I have no idea how or why you'd defend such an objectively badly designed system.

    Besides, it fixes nothing. If every single person relocated servers to buy a house in a low-pop Realm, there would still be a housing crisis. There's a total of 2,160 plots per server. The amount of plots available across all servers in a datacentre, mathematically, not even enough to service 2 servers in a datacenter.

    I'm also not going to participate in RMT. If that was what I wanted to do, I wouldn't even bother coming here to share my frustration; I'd just do it and then I'd have nothing to complain about -- probably take an air of "everything is fine", like yourself, since I'd have what I want. But for as much as I detest this system, I hate RMT (and those who perpetuate it) even more. But it is a fact that this system highly, HIGHLY incentivizes it. Just go to the FFXIV Housing subreddit and see for yourself.
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    In a pay to play game, housing of every type should readily available to everyone who wants it, regardless of server population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Well, you have a viable way to get a house now, you just choose not to take it. If you resort to RMT, that's on you.
    Sorry but thats utterly ridiculous way to justify the system. Making people move servers is not a viable system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlach View Post
    Sorry but thats utterly ridiculous way to justify the system. Making people move servers is not a viable system.
    Why is not viable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Why is not viable?

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    God, I was trying to be cordial but you are just being insufferable at this point.

    Yes, it's linguistically feasible. Just like it's feasible for me to get a teleport hack, or a script that autoclicks the board for me every 0.004 seconds, or buy RMT. Less hassle, even. This is not a good justification.

    But judging by your pattern of responses on this board regarding this topic, you'd probably say those are all perfectly viable options, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RikuShieran View Post
    Sorry. In hopes that SE gets the clue, here I am, piling on just like everyone else should.

    I realize there's server strain but this is ridiculous. The way this system is at the moment, the only viable way to get a house anymore is to participate in under-the-table negotiations on Reddit or somewhere else, either for money or ingame gil, usually gigantic portions, likely RMT too since nothing else in the game demans the prices that flipped houses go for. A cursory glance at Reddit shows you how many people are getting actual, real money off of flipping houses and selling relocations and FCs.

    Square, this is your doing. Make no mistake.

    As it stands, a not insignificant portion of my monthly subscription is dedicated to a system used by players who are not me, many of which are RMT buyers. The depressingly ironic truth is that I probably spend MORE time in housing districts clicking billboards for literally days than the people who actually have houses.
    Quote Originally Posted by RikuShieran View Post
    God, I was trying to be cordial but you are just being insufferable at this point.

    Yes, it's linguistically feasible. Just like it's feasible for me to get a teleport hack, or a script that autoclicks the board for me every 0.004 seconds, or buy RMT. Less hassle, even. This is not a good justification.

    But judging by your pattern of responses on this board regarding this topic, you'd probably say those are all perfectly viable options, too.
    If you really want a house that badly, it's there for the taking. I understand that it's inconvenient, but it's still there and you don't have to resort to hacks, scripts or other underhanded tactics. Your speech about morals or RMT is undermined by your hyperbole. RMT isn't the only viable way as you claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by RikuShieran View Post
    The depressingly ironic truth is that I probably spend MORE time in housing districts clicking billboards for literally days than the people who actually have houses.
    What is even ironic about this? What reason would I, a homeowner have to click billboards all day? So you click billboards more than I do, so what? Am I supposed to be impressed? Boo-hoo.
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